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    Just the first one, then the other two will be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dln View Post
    Just the first one, then the other two will be fine.
    Does that apply to some previous post - or is it a new type of guessing game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
    Are you suggesting that Landlords should stop getting accommodation supplements, education should not be funded, and the police disbanded?
    Monday morning and we are already being a silly sausage I see? Shame man.

    Parents need to get their kids to school after the parents have nurtured them at home (which includes getting the kids to bed at a reasonable time and then ensuring they have some breakfast in the morning, and take food with them for lunch).

    The default should not be that taxpayers must step in and be the parents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistaTea View Post
    Monday morning and we are already being a silly sausage I see? Shame man.

    Parents need to get their kids to school after the parents have nurtured them at home (which includes getting the kids to bed at a reasonable time and then ensuring they have some breakfast in the morning, and take food with them for lunch).

    The default should not be that taxpayers must step in and be the parents.
    Unfortunately not every family is the Brady Bunch. Any type of sausage could be good! Landlord subsidy is ok then? Even though good tenants will soon be able to be evicted with no cause. So families with established routines could be forced to move on.

    Funding for education is OK? Even though empty bellies could make teaching for all difficult. How about the subsidised breakfast club schemes?
    Last edited by Bjauck; 22-04-2024 at 09:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Pathetic effort by Labour Opposition led by Hapless Hipkins & the Maori cabal to try & tar the government over regulatory imperatives to lift NZís economic performance with favouring donors.

    The very same Labour Party which receives donations from the trade unions and pass legislations to favour them to retard NZís economic performance. Thatís how pathetically hypocritical and immoral the Labour Party is.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...al-says-labour
    British government ministers got into trouble over jobs for mates with respect to fast tracking with ministerial discretion over purchasing of covid supplies.

    The Infrastructure emergency that has built up needs a speedy response but with checks to make sure contracts awarded are above board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
    British government ministers got into trouble over jobs for mates with respect to fast tracking with ministerial discretion over purchasing of covid supplies.

    The Infrastructure emergency that has built up needs a speedy response but with checks to make sure contracts awarded are above board.
    Agreed.

    Just pointing out the utter hypocrisy of the Labour Party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
    Unfortunately not every family is the Brady Bunch. Any type of sausage could be good! Landlord subsidy is ok then? Even though good tenants will soon be able to be evicted with no cause. So families with established routines could be forced to move on.

    Funding for education is OK? Even though empty bellies could make teaching for all difficult. How about the subsidised breakfast club schemes?
    Yes we know you are positive that the sky is going to fall because interest deductibility is being restored. If deducting interest as an expense is evil then it should be banned for all. Not fair that I can borrow money to buy shares and deduct the interest from my income yet a landlord cannot.

    We have a school lunch program of sorts that needs to be trimmed back.

    Nobody wants hungry kids at school, but there is a legitimate question around how much the state should be on the hook for feeding kids. Especially when a lot of these kids could have enough food but their parents prefer to spend the money on self-gratification.

    We tried your communist model for 6 years. It failed to meet the proposed objectives and has put us in a tricky spot. How many iterations of this do we need to go through before we understand that communism/socialism just does not work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
    Unfortunately not every family is the Brady Bunch. Any type of sausage could be good! Landlord subsidy is ok then? Even though good tenants will soon be able to be evicted with no cause. So families with established routines could be forced to move on.

    Funding for education is OK? Even though empty bellies could make teaching for all difficult. How about the subsidised breakfast club schemes?
    Which LL evicts good tenants for no cause?

    Good folk fear not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getty View Post
    Which LL evicts good tenants for no cause?

    Good folk fear not.
    Yes the idea that LL's are now just going to kick people out onto the street is nuts. Just fearmongering by BJ as he continues to try to make a storm in a teacup.

    Life will go on much as it always has after this change.

    And if there are any landlords who decide they don't want to rent the property out all they need to do is give a very reasonable 3 months notice. They certainly do not need to explain their actions to BJ, or anyone for that matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistaTea View Post
    Yes we know you are positive that the sky is going to fall because interest deductibility is being restored. If deducting interest as an expense is evil then it should be banned for all. Not fair that I can borrow money to buy shares and deduct the interest from my income yet a landlord cannot.

    We have a school lunch program of sorts that needs to be trimmed back.

    Nobody wants hungry kids at school, but there is a legitimate question around how much the state should be on the hook for feeding kids. Especially when a lot of these kids could have enough food but their parents prefer to spend the money on self-gratification.

    We tried your communist model for 6 years. It failed to meet the proposed objectives and has put us in a tricky spot. How many iterations of this do we need to go through before we understand that communism/socialism just does not work.
    Good luck getting a loan from the bank to borrow money to buy shares, on the security of the shares themselves.

    I guess it depends on how far you want the kids to suffer for the failings and/or circumstances of their parents.

    It was the previously mentioned accommodation supplement to which I was referring. Certainly interest deductibility for new builds would be good. Some state assistance is good? How do you define communism?

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