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28-05-2024, 03:49 PM
#3321
Originally Posted by nztx
Will Tamaki be there or perhaps busy with closer pressing issues like trying to extract a Bro out of a serious bind ?
It might be safe for Marama to come out & play on the intersections & crossings and not be left star struck while trying to perfect licking the asphalt between the lines
Nothing like an early practice run for the wandering day of starry holiday
LOL. Definitely no rainbow flags or LGBQTIAs will be around for long if he shows up with his posse.
Last edited by Bjauck; 28-05-2024 at 03:52 PM.
Reason: I have lost track of what the acronym is currently.
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28-05-2024, 05:40 PM
#3322
Originally Posted by Bjauck
I am certainly against some forms of protest - such as blocking the motorways at peak times, and occupying parliamentary grounds - no matter whether protestors are from the political right or left.
You said you are for free speech and “all form” of protest so surely Swarbrick saying what she did on a protest march would be a good thing? Freedom in motion. I think it is a good thing to get as many causes together as possible on one protest occasion!
Agree protesting without causing undue encroachment on civil liberties is good and proper. Im not sure whether all protesters coming out at the same time does them any good. The voice gets lost and can be seen as protesting for the sake of protesting. Of course, I have zero evidence to back this up so it may well turn out to be an effective way to conduct such a thing.
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29-05-2024, 12:01 AM
#3323
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29-05-2024, 12:26 AM
#3324
Last edited by nztx; 29-05-2024 at 12:46 AM.
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29-05-2024, 01:29 AM
#3325
PM considers strike action to be illegal rather than a human right (but if doing it, please do so on a weekend).
What's not illegal though, is turning on all our heating and AC's during the budget speech hour so there's a power cut.
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29-05-2024, 06:35 AM
#3326
Originally Posted by Panda-NZ-
PM considers strike action to be illegal rather than a human right (but if doing it, please do so on a weekend).
What's not illegal though, is turning on all our heating and AC's during the budget speech hour so there's a power cut.
Luxon is correct. For a start Striking for a political issue is a different matter to striking for a job-related issue. Also causing unrelated disruption to your business is good way to jeopardise job security in tough times. It is almost as if the Maori Party want their supporters to become hungry, unemployed and on the margins.
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29-05-2024, 07:04 AM
#3327
Originally Posted by Bjauck
Luxon is correct. For a start Striking for a political issue is a different matter to striking for a job-related issue. Also causing unrelated disruption to your business is good way to jeopardise job security in tough times. It is almost as if the Maori Party want their supporters to become hungry, unemployed and on the margins.
Yeah I think that MP, Labour etc are happy to have a big segment of the population doing it tough, and encouraging them to behave in a way that is only going to make their situation worse.
That’s how that guarantee a certain percentage of guaranteed votes each election. Just make the people desperate.
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29-05-2024, 08:00 AM
#3328
Originally Posted by mistaTea
Yeah I think that MP, Labour etc are happy to have a big segment of the population doing it tough, and encouraging them to behave in a way that is only going to make their situation worse.
That’s how that guarantee a certain percentage of guaranteed votes each election. Just make the people desperate.
Maori elites are doing that already without needing a protest
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29-05-2024, 10:16 AM
#3329
Originally Posted by causecelebre
Maori elites are doing that already without needing a protest
So the Maori elites are causing the economic pain and encouraging desparation?
And it's their fault that services are being cut and jobs lost so that Nat/act/nzf can transfer resources from those on the bottom of the heap to those on the top in the form of tax cuts?
And - to add insult to injury - the right are playing to the redneck portions of their base by trying to claw back and reverse much of the social progress made over the last fifty years. I suspect this latter point has at least as much to do with the current angst as economic issues.
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29-05-2024, 10:59 AM
#3330
Originally Posted by davflaws
So the Maori elites are causing the economic pain and encouraging desparation?
And it's their fault that services are being cut and jobs lost so that Nat/act/nzf can transfer resources from those on the bottom of the heap to those on the top in the form of tax cuts?
And - to add insult to injury - the right are playing to the redneck portions of their base by trying to claw back and reverse much of the social progress made over the last fifty years. I suspect this latter point has at least as much to do with the current angst as economic issues.
No, it's their fault the provisions put in place does not filter down to those that need it
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