Nat/act/nzf 2023

[Daytr]

That 1News-Verian poll is old news already. ACT is polling higher than the Green's https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/poll_nov2024_cutunz

You just posted a poll that is nearly a month old.

[Balance]

That 1News-Verian poll is old news already. ACT is polling higher than the Green's https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/poll_nov2024_cutunz

Try this one :

https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/final_p...urce=taxpayers

The latest Taxpayers-Union Curia poll shows bumps for ACT and Te Pāti Māori after the hīkoi and introduction of the Treaty Principles Bill last month.

It comes at the expense of both main parties - reversing the trend of the previous month - with smaller falls in support for the Greens and New Zealand First. The coalition parties would still have enough seats to hold government, under the poll's numbers.

National: 34.2 percent, down 4.6 percentage points (44 seats)
Labour: 26.9 percent, down 4.6 (34 seats)
ACT: 13 percent, up 4.5 (17 seats)
Greens: 8.3 percent, down 1 (11 seats)
NZ First: 5.4 percent, down 1.1 (7 seats)
Te Pāti Māori: 5.5 percent, up 3 (7 seats)

It is the first time ACT has overtaken the Greens since February under the Curia poll.

Well done David Seymour, it looks like he has galvanized the Maori Party's support.
What a Muppet.

What a genius, you mean?

LOL!

[Daytr]

The misnamed Tax Payer Union's polls are very out of kilter with the rest & typically are right biased.

I don't really expect ACT's support to fall as far right support & racism within individuals seldom changes.

However it has galvanized Maori and Maori ensuring they are enrolled on the Maori roll. It may not actually help as Maori seats are fixed, unlike the party seats than can be swapped between parties according to their percentage of the vote.

It's all moot anyway as without National, ACT are left nowhere. It will be interesting to see if the likes of Shane Jones and Winston Peters start softening their rhetoric towards the opposition as they tend to blow hard with the political wind of the day.

[causecelebre]

You just posted a poll that is nearly a month old.

oops. fat finger. https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/final_p...urce=taxpayers

[Balance]

The misnamed Tax Payer Union's polls are very out of kilter with the rest & typically are right biased.

I don't really expect ACT's support to fall as far right support & racism within individuals seldom changes.

However it has galvanized Maori and Maori ensuring they are enrolled on the Maori roll. It may not actually help as Maori seats are fixed, unlike the party seats than can be swapped between parties according to their percentage of the vote.

It's all moot anyway as without National, ACT are left nowhere. It will be interesting to see if the likes of Shane Jones and Winston Peters start softening their rhetoric towards the opposition as they tend to blow hard with the political wind of the day.

Usual garbage from you. Check the facts before you make a monkey out of your heritage.

Curia's Oct 2023 poll was close to the actual 2023 election results :

https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/gen_pol..._23_nztu_curia

https://www.electionresults.govt.nz/...nresults_2023/

TV1 was also close :

https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/10/11/p...ision-to-make/

In any case, the polls this week simply showed that the Maori vote (always with the left) switches between Labour, the Greens and Maori Party.

It is a massive positive insofar as the racial division will become very pronounced and that’s what NZ needs. No point hiding behind niceties.

[Balance]

So where do middle NZers stand on the Treaty principles?

Here’s a poll to provide some idea :

https://centrist.nz/poll-majority-of...treaty-debate/

Recent polling commissioned by Hobson’s Pledge shows 62% of New Zealanders support honouring the Treaty of Waitangi, provided it upholds fundamental human rights, with only 12% disagreeing.

However, the poll also found low support (13%) for the belief that the Treaty mandates 50% Māori representation in Parliament, with only Te Pāti Māori voters expressing overall agreement.

[causecelebre]

Usual garbage from you. Check the facts before you make a monkey out of your heritage.

Curia's Oct 2023 poll was close to the actual 2023 election results :

https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/gen_pol..._23_nztu_curia

https://www.electionresults.govt.nz/...nresults_2023/

TV1 was also close :

https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/10/11/p...ision-to-make/

In any case, the polls this week simply showed that the Maori vote (always with the left) switches between Labour, the Greens and Maori Party.

It is a massive positive insofar as the racial division will become very pronounced and that’s what NZ needs. No point hiding behind niceties.

Yes, Curia has shown itself to be the most accurate poll of over the last six years. One thing the both polls this week showed was that the Maori Party cannibalising from Labour and the center of NZ has changed not their mind. Natiional have largely maintained it's polling since the election. Hipkin's and Labour need to cut ties with the Maori Party and the Greens and stand for middle NZ. This is not going to happen. Labour is not going to shunt their Maori caucus and will not wish to be labelled racists and anti-woke and will fall on that sword at the next election.

[Daytr]

Usual garbage from you. Check the facts before you make a monkey out of your heritage.

Curia's Oct 2023 poll was close to the actual 2023 election results :

https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/gen_pol..._23_nztu_curia

https://www.electionresults.govt.nz/...nresults_2023/

TV1 was also close :

https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/10/11/p...ision-to-make/

In any case, the polls this week simply showed that the Maori vote (always with the left) switches between Labour, the Greens and Maori Party.

It is a massive positive insofar as the racial division will become very pronounced and that’s what NZ needs. No point hiding behind niceties.

How long did it take for you to revert to insults?
Such a low standard of debate.

And yes as I said, the switch in Maori vote will make little difference. I wonder why not many Maori vote for the right?
How many Maori vote for ACT & yet they think they should renegotiate the Treaty with Maori.
The arrogance is incredible.

[Balance]

How long did it take for you to revert to insults?
Such a low standard of debate.

And yes as I said, the switch in Maori vote will make little difference. I wonder why not many Maori vote for the right?
How many Maori vote for ACT & yet they think they should renegotiate the Treaty with Maori.
The arrogance is incredible.

Precisely why ACT is the PARTY to do away with the Maori gravy train.

[davflaws]

Precisely why ACT is the PARTY to do away with the Maori gravy train.

Maori are on the bottom of the heap in statistics on life expectancy, health, housing, employment, ecomomic status, and justice.

Some gravy train!