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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Blame Hamas for what's happening in Gaza? Absolutely!

    Marking the first time in which a formal Palestinian voice has blamed Hamas for the disastrous outcomes of the October 7 massacre, Fatah said that “those who were responsible for the return of the occupation to Gaza Strip and caused the Nakba [catastrophe] which our Palestinian people live… have no right to dictate national priorities.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtMyLIiJV2I




    Such ignorance, didn't you know for years Netanyahu & even a member of his Far Right govt deviously propped up HAMAS in Gaza to divide & weaken President Abbas & the Palestinian Authority on the West Bank, to prevent any advancement of a Palestinian state or 2 State solution ever happening. It's backfired.

    Why do you think Fatah which is the dominant party in the Palestinian Authority, is saying this?
    I'll tell you, because the PA looks weak,is fast losing support to HAMAS, & like Netanyahu risks becoming irrelevant to any settlement after this is over.



    https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-ye...-in-our-faces/

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...as-2024-01-19/

    https://www.thenation.com/article/wo...lstered-hamas/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    Such ignorance, didn't you know for years Netanyahu & even a member of his Far Right govt deviously propped up HAMAS to divide & weaken President Abbas & the Palestinian Authority, to prevent any advancement of a Palestinian state or 2 State solution ever happening. It's backfired.

    Why do you think Fatah which is the dominant party in the Palestinian Authority, is saying this?
    I'll tell you, because the PA looks weak,is fast losing support to HAMAS, & like Netanyahu risks becoming irrelevant to any settlement after this is over.



    https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-ye...-in-our-faces/

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...as-2024-01-19/

    https://www.thenation.com/article/wo...lstered-hamas/
    Did you get that directly from Hamas or via Chloe Swarbrick?

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    David Farrar: Hamas, not Israel, is the party refusing a ceasefire

    Slate reports:

    Amid all the calls for an Israeli cease-fire in the war with Gaza, a few key facts are getting short shrift. Israel has put forth a cease-fire plan. It was negotiated along with U.S., Egyptian, Qatari, and Saudi diplomats. Its terms are quite favorable to Hamas. And Hamas is the party that's rejecting it.


    The plan, which has been on the table for two weeks, calls for a 40-day cease-fire. During this period, all military activity by Israel and Hamas will stop. Israel will suspend aerial surveillance over Gaza for eight hours of each day. Hamas will free 40 hostages—one a day. They will include women, children under 19, people over 50, and ill hostages. In exchange, Israel will free 400 Palestinian prisoners—a 10-to-1 ratio.


    A 10:1 prisoner ratio and a 40 day cease-fire.

    Meanwhile, the six-week cease-fire plan seems as if it has something to offer for all sides. Diplomats from neighboring Arab states have been pushing Hamas to take the deal. The Wall Street Journal recently reported that Qatari officials have threatened to expel Hamas' political leaders—who have been living in cushy houses and condos in the small, oil-rich nation—if they don't accept the cease-fire, though no action has yet been taken.


    So Israel, US, all the Arab states think it is a fair ceasefire. But Hamas won't agree.

    A senior Hamas leader openly said, in an interview with Russian TV two weeks into the war, that protecting civilians was the United Nations' responsibility, not his. They don't care about the lives or well-being of ordinary Gazans. As long as he and other Hamas leaders survive, down in their tunnels or wherever they happen to be, they're willing to hang on.

    https://cis.org/Rush/Hamas-Official-...cies-Funded-US


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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    David Farrar: Hamas, not Israel, is the party refusing a ceasefire

    Slate reports:

    Amid all the calls for an Israeli cease-fire in the war with Gaza, a few key facts are getting short shrift. Israel has put forth a cease-fire plan. It was negotiated along with U.S., Egyptian, Qatari, and Saudi diplomats. Its terms are quite favorable to Hamas. And Hamas is the party that's rejecting it.


    The plan, which has been on the table for two weeks, calls for a 40-day cease-fire. During this period, all military activity by Israel and Hamas will stop. Israel will suspend aerial surveillance over Gaza for eight hours of each day. Hamas will free 40 hostages—one a day. They will include women, children under 19, people over 50, and ill hostages. In exchange, Israel will free 400 Palestinian prisoners—a 10-to-1 ratio.


    A 10:1 prisoner ratio and a 40 day cease-fire.

    Meanwhile, the six-week cease-fire plan seems as if it has something to offer for all sides. Diplomats from neighboring Arab states have been pushing Hamas to take the deal. The Wall Street Journal recently reported that Qatari officials have threatened to expel Hamas' political leaders—who have been living in cushy houses and condos in the small, oil-rich nation—if they don't accept the cease-fire, though no action has yet been taken.


    So Israel, US, all the Arab states think it is a fair ceasefire. But Hamas won't agree.

    A senior Hamas leader openly said, in an interview with Russian TV two weeks into the war, that protecting civilians was the United Nations' responsibility, not his. They don't care about the lives or well-being of ordinary Gazans. As long as he and other Hamas leaders survive, down in their tunnels or wherever they happen to be, they're willing to hang on.

    https://cis.org/Rush/Hamas-Official-...cies-Funded-US


    Lovely people.*




    * Chloe Swarbrick type of people
    Or another side to the story not written by someone with Jewish heritage.

    Gaza ceasefire talks: What are Israel and Hamas saying? | News | Al Jazeera

    The US proposed ceasefire through the UN was vetoed by Russia & China.

    Balance don't spread this BS that Netanyahu is the one offering the olive branch and its only Hamas to blame for not accepting.
    Get some integrity for a change. It's not all one side's fault.
    Hopefully you find my posts helpful, but in no way should they be construed as advice. Make your own decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daytr View Post
    Or another side to the story not written by someone with Jewish heritage.

    Gaza ceasefire talks: What are Israel and Hamas saying? | News | Al Jazeera

    The US proposed ceasefire through the UN was vetoed by Russia & China.

    Balance don't spread this BS that Netanyahu is the one offering the olive branch and its only Hamas to blame for not accepting.
    Get some integrity for a change. It's not all one side's fault.
    Integrity from you, a Hamas supporter and Jew hater?

    Did you get your infor directly from Hamas or via Chloe Swarbrick?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Integrity from you, a Hamas supporter and Jew hater?

    Did you get your infor directly from Hamas or via Chloe Swarbrick?
    I thought it would be a waste time thinking you wouldn't revert to type.
    Making lazy, ugly, ridiculous insults and accusations.
    When ae you going to put your big boy pants on and grow up?
    Your school yard bully tactics are not only childish they just make you look silly as well.
    Honestly for a guy who clearly has a brain, you fail to kick into gear an awful lot.
    Hopefully you find my posts helpful, but in no way should they be construed as advice. Make your own decision.

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