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16-06-2022, 02:47 PM
#2251
Originally Posted by Mackap
No, the high grades are not in short supply. I am a small commercial beekeeper. I have about 15 tonne of umf 15 and higher in storage with no Packers wanting to purchase. A big commercial honey storage company has 100s of tonnes with umf 10+ and higher with not much interest. The only honey being sold is from beekeepers who are so desperate to sell, that they will take any low ball offer.
Does not make sense then why high grade UMF prices are so high if there’s abundant supply around.
I used to buy Comvita UMF20+ 250g (as gifts when I did my Asian round) and they used to cost me $45 which I thought was outrageously expensive at the time! Now it’s over $100!
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16-06-2022, 03:02 PM
#2252
Originally Posted by kiora
Stock turn once/year is horrendously low. Must mean some stock sits on the shelf for a long time. Means need more warehouse room required and extra cost of carrying it.
Lucky it has a reasonably long shelf life.
when the price drops - then red ink ? potentially a repeat of past history if so wiith CVT
High inventories and waiting the market out for demand to walk in the door - a potential
scenario for further disaster ? Where else have we seen similar plays ?
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16-06-2022, 03:50 PM
#2253
Banfield trying hard to find a buyer for the company but he really has to try harder as the share price continues to languish
Current share price just above 2 bucks and about the same as when Banfields appointment was announced
He's told plenty of good stories since he started but nobody (but hopeful share holders) seem impressed
Hopefully the Chinese are still interested .... other wise the rest of the year is going to get painful .... share price wise
C'mon David, try harder
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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17-06-2022, 10:54 AM
#2254
Member
Essentially Manuka honey is just one kind of commodity such as coffee beans, cocoa beans, milk powder, beef, apples, or t-shirts, shoes, bags, belts, watches etc.
Harvested massive Manuka honey is bad news to some beekeepers, but to Comvita, means lower cost of ingredients. Comvita could use its premium brand to make more profit by higher gross margin.
I guess Comvita with its harvest model might pay a little bit more than current market price to its partners, and have to stock up more manuka honey in the last massive harvest season. In the short term it is painful, if not much free cash in hands ,but In the long term it is sustainable, everyone on this supply chain could make profit. We still have fresh memories that Comvita and Watson & Son all made big losses in the last few years.
The manuka honey industry would not exist if everyone was just fighting a price war, look around so many names in the field, they all price diffrently.
Nike can sell one pair of shoes at a much higher price than Kmart or Number One Shoes. That is ‘pricing’ power. Only premium brands can stand price war to some extent.
The price war in the manuka honey market happens all the time. The quality of manuka honey is much different under different names.
Bulk manuka honey export and different criteria for bottled manuka honey domestic and overseas are big holes in the manuka honey industry. That explains the chaos in the NZ domestic market and UK market.
Branding is a dangerous game, the precious gross profit might be wasted to achieve nothing in the name of branding or marketing.
Last edited by william67; 17-06-2022 at 02:29 PM.
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18-06-2022, 09:44 AM
#2255
Member
Originally Posted by winner69
Banfield trying hard to find a buyer for the company but he really has to try harder as the share price continues to languish
Current share price just above 2 bucks and about the same as when Banfields appointment was announced
He's told plenty of good stories since he started but nobody (but hopeful share holders) seem impressed
Hopefully the Chinese are still interested .... other wise the rest of the year is going to get painful .... share price wise
C'mon David, try harder
I think cvt is doing better than most in this bear market & is also placed well for the future when the bear goes back not like the product has a short shelf life is it .
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29-06-2022, 04:29 PM
#2256
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27-07-2022, 01:23 PM
#2257
I heard in todays national country programe that honey will be duty free in the near future into Europe, this should help with that export market, are there any other listed honey exporting companies that this also applies to ?
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27-07-2022, 01:46 PM
#2258
Originally Posted by whatsup
i heard in todays national country programe that honey will be duty free in the near future into europe, this should help with that export market, are there any other listed honey exporting companies that this also applies to ?
mee...............................................
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27-07-2022, 07:31 PM
#2259
Member
http://nzx-prod-s7fsd7f98s.s3-websit...953/375377.pdf
It seems these guys are looking /buying into a few companies on the nzx could be good for sales in china !!!
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27-07-2022, 07:36 PM
#2260
Risk Manager for FTX
Originally Posted by ralph
No, read the disclosures. Just a change of name.
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