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    https://www.nbr.co.nz/article/appeal...comment-732547

    Seems like more action to follow yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    https://www.nbr.co.nz/article/appeal...comment-732547

    Seems like more action to follow yet.
    Nice to see Tony Gavigan and others pursuing this.
    I was lucky to avoid this one,but think all involved should have known better,and have a lot to answer for.

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    Sad but true about these "types" is that ,"they would sell their father if they knew who he is " !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    https://www.nbr.co.nz/article/appeal...comment-732547

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    At the time of the issue a leading carpet industry icon said to me that ït was "the biggest pump and dump"he had ever seen.

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    https://www.forsythbarr.co.nz/instit...tment-banking/

    Guess Forbar will be wanting to delete the reference to CBL Corporation being Finance Asia Best NZ Deal of 2015 for Forsyth Barr?

    Adding to the long lists of dud deals done by the firm :

    1. Feltex

    2. Credit Sails

    3. South Canterbury Finance

    Guess Forbar will keep using that 'honey' rather than vinegar to pull in the punters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    https://www.forsythbarr.co.nz/instit...tment-banking/

    Guess Forbar will be wanting to delete the reference to CBL Corporation being Finance Asia Best NZ Deal of 2015 for Forsyth Barr?

    Adding to the long lists of dud deals done by the firm :

    1. Feltex

    2. Credit Sails

    3. South Canterbury Finance

    Guess Forbar will keep using that 'honey' rather than vinegar to pull in the punters?
    I see Metro Glass got one of those Deals of the Year awards as well
    ”When investors are euphoric, they are incapable of recognising euphoria itself “

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    https://www.forsythbarr.co.nz/instit...tment-banking/

    Guess Forbar will be wanting to delete the reference to CBL Corporation being Finance Asia Best NZ Deal of 2015 for Forsyth Barr?

    Adding to the long lists of dud deals done by the firm :

    1. Feltex

    2. Credit Sails

    3. South Canterbury Finance

    Guess Forbar will keep using that 'honey' rather than vinegar to pull in the punters?
    Strategic Finance

    Babcock and Brown

    Fletcher Building (a buy as at Nov 2017)

    Fliway

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    they got some good fees though
    one step ahead of the herd

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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    they got some good fees though
    Yes indeed.

    Their clients pick up the booby prizes.

    And some of them did not even know that they were being 'stuffed' with the duds!

    "One retired man, who didn't want to be named, said investments were supposed to go into a conservative discretionary portfolio. In other words, Forsyth Barr chose the investments, providing they were low risk. But the firm placed $20,000 of his money in the high-risk Credit SaILS.

    The investor found out about the loss via a letter from Forsyth Barr, telling him the value of the investment had plummeted to zero. Credit SaILS was among four investments removed from the portfolio within a year because they fell over.

    Included were the high profile Feltex, Strategic Finance and Babcock & Brown failures.

    "If you get three or four in a row, you really have to start questioning."

    Operative word here - discretionary. Forsyth Barr made/makes the decisions which investment to go into the clients' portfolios.
    Last edited by Balance; 28-02-2018 at 01:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    Strategic Finance

    Babcock and Brown

    Fletcher Building (a buy as at Nov 2017)

    Fliway
    To be fair, Credit Sails was 2008, Strategic Finance was 2010, Babcock & Brown was 2009, and Fletcher was not a buy in November 2017, and Fliway was taken over at a higher price. I am sure they were not the only broker that did this sort of thing which is why the FMA were formed.
    Stick to the strategy

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