ATM - A2 Milk Corporation Limited

[minimoke]

People lost a lot of money with CBL too but I didn’t see the same hostility or name-calling towards the CEO on that thread. CBL losses are permanent whereas ATM losses are not. ATM has always been volatile and it will bounce back. I previously said that women are judged more harshly than men when they make a mistake in the business world and that is what I see on the ATM thread. With women the mistake is often used as evidence that women are incompetent whereas with men the same mistake is brushed off or ignored. Double standards = sexism.

You either haven't been here very long or you arent widely read. I shant go through them all but the following come to mind
Derek Handley Snakk
David Darling PEB
The old fullah who's chair of Sky
Alan Hubbard Canterbury Finance
Glen Martin, Martin Aircraft
Baker, the absent chair of Turners
The engagement (?) ring guy at ALF

Search for the Dumb Directors thread or whatever its called.

All (or at lest most men) have been right royally roasted for their very poor performance.

So enough of this "sexism" gender diversity bull****. If the chicks want equal seats they got to be prepared for equal flack - as do their brain numbed flakey followers

[Ggcc]

You either haven't been here very long or you arent widely read. I shant go through them all but the following come to mind
Derek Handley Snakk
David Darling PEB
The old fullah who's chair of Sky
Alan Hubbard Canterbury Finance
Glen Martin, Martin Aircraft
Baker, the absent chair of Turners
The engagement (?) ring guy at ALF

Search for the Dumb Directors thread or whatever its called.

All (or at lest most men) have been right royally roasted for their very poor performance.

So enough of this "sexism" gender diversity bull****. If the chicks want equal seats they got to be prepared for equal flack - as do their brain numbed flakey followers

I agree with this statement I was about to post something similar and I know Derek Handley has been the butt of many jokes, as well as a David Darling. I am tired of whenever we take a dig at someone for their ethics, gender is brought into the discussion. I love women and am a feminist of the old not new order believing in equal rights equal pay. I want to see more women at the top. I was always told the tallest trees in an organisation should also expect the most wind about their decision making. Man or woman period.
The one thing is that people who generally take strong positions concerning sexism don't normally change their thought patterns over time. He/She has a right to an opinion and sometimes will be correct on their view of things, but to when they are not correct, usually they still seem to see things from their point of view and cry foul.

[see weed]

You either haven't been here very long or you arent widely read. I shant go through them all but the following come to mind
Derek Handley Snakk
David Darling PEB
The old fullah who's chair of Sky
Alan Hubbard Canterbury Finance
Glen Martin, Martin Aircraft
Baker, the absent chair of Turners
The engagement (?) ring guy at ALF

Search for the Dumb Directors thread or whatever its called.

All (or at lest most men) have been right royally roasted for their very poor performance.

So enough of this "sexism" gender diversity bull****. If the chicks want equal seats they got to be prepared for equal flack - as do their brain numbed flakey followers

Good reply. I have an old news paper article pinned to my office wall with a photo of Derek handley. Have drawn a cross over his head to remind me never to invest in any of his scams again.

[James108]

The ceo was entitled to sell, she probably flagged she would need to before she took the job. Especially if she thought the share price was overcooked, which despite comments on here is a legitimate opinion for a ceo to have. No matter how optimistic she is about atm’s prospects at some price it is overvalued.

In my view, Unless they are planning to raise equity, the ceo should not concern herself with the share price in the short term (despite how they are commonly incentivised). Instead she should focus on creating long term value. Ideally the opinions of traders should be completely ignored. The board needs to ensure her remuneration package is aligned with creating long term value.

I hold a small parcel and don’t concern myself with the SP day to do or month to month. So far the share price has fallen a lot on no actual bad news, I find that interesting.

[winner69]

James posted - share price has fallen a lot on no actual bad news, I find that interesting.

He hinted earlier in the post why — the share price is over cooked (Jayne might or might not think that but many do)

[minimoke]

The ceo was entitled to sell,

Absolutely I accept that. But in her video she bangs on about diversity in thinking. As CEO it also incumbent on her to think about what actions she takes which might bring the company share price down or conversely up.

I'm not aware that she flagged to the market the likelihood of her selling 100% of her stake within a few months of starting the job.

If she is in the job for a reasonable period of time then it is quite possible that while the SP might be overcooked today it ought not be in 3 years time when she could have sold for a nice gain on leaving the company.

[44wishlists]

Found this article. Not a good news for atm I guess. DSC: used to hold some.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...customs-checks

Chinese govt is targeting at luxury goods. You have to consider is IF milk a luxury, or necessatity to the country population

[Muppett]

ATM is all about China and IF, but who on here is buying milk?
Don't you feel sorry for those poor people living in South and West Auckland.

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Chinese govt is targeting at luxury goods. You have to consider is IF milk a luxury, or necessatity to the country population

Luxury goods in China are the high end stuff... some of the names or brands we don't even heard of in NZ. Don't think milk is considered as luxury goods.

[minimoke]

Found this article. Not a good news for atm I guess. DSC: used to hold some.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...customs-checks

Feeding baby in China isn't a luxury. Their is a strong reluctance to breast feed (myths, misinformation, lack of milk expressing facilities at work, need to get back to work, lack of breast feeing promoting and nurse specialists etc). So milk formula is pretty much a necessity.

Given its nearly a necessity, teh Chinese dont have a lot of confidence in the quality of their home produced product. They want what is best for baby for a safety perspective. So foreign milk formula is highly desirable.

Teh Chinese (Asians) have difficulty processing A1 milk protein, so arguably so does baby.

So what is a good mother with money to do. Buy foreign, A2 infant milk formula. It will be a strong government that tries to prevent this. And in whose interests are best served. A happy politician is one with a happy wife. And a happy wife is one with a foreign produced, non A1 infant milk formula supply