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    Holders need to keep forever mindful of the games being played by certain fund managers, games like downramping and saying the stock is overvalued whilst simultaneously loading up with shares, meanwhile the SP continues on it's upward trajectory.

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    a2 is influencing the stock exchange nz50 big time , one can now assume most fund managers have too have a large holding to mirror the index or else fall far behind the benchmark performance wise.

    looking in the mirror what do you think will happen when a2 glory days are over? massive fund under performance ?
    one step ahead of the herd

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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    exactly my point is harbours outperformance intirely due to overweight position in a2 ?
    You are drawing a very long bow suggesting one stock's performance is entirely responsible for the whole's find's outperformance for the last five years.
    This is only one of their many holdings and they have not always been overweight.

    Some of your other recent bearish suggestions about impending doom for the market overall make a mockery of your user name.
    Perhaps you should change you user name to gloomy bear ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    When A1 free becomes the norm it will no longer bag a margin over A1 - it will become the basic commodity at commodity pricing.
    Not so good if you want A2 to be a 'special' product at the premium 'special' products enjoy.
    Apple is still doing all right with iPhones. We've gotta hope that ATM becomes the APPLE of the Milk Proteins world.
    Disc. Not a holder, have been concerned about patent issues for a long time. See post 7169 and some around there for some discussion if interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTM View Post
    Apple is still doing all right with iPhones. We've gotta hope that ATM becomes the APPLE of the Milk Proteins world.
    Disc. Not a holder, have been concerned about patent issues for a long time. See post 7169 and some around there for some discussion if interested.
    I don't think a comparison with Apple is relevant.
    How much design goes into the ATM product?

    PS - Apple isn't doing as well as they were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by couta1 View Post
    Holders need to keep forever mindful of the games being played by certain fund managers, games like downramping and saying the stock is overvalued whilst simultaneously loading up with shares, meanwhile the SP continues on it's upward trajectory.
    Exactly this.....

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    World wide awareness of A2 milk has just started, the pie has just gotten bigger with Nestle and Fonterra jumping on board. ATM is a prime takeover target but hopefully not for quite a while yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    I don't think a comparison with Apple is relevant.
    How much design goes into the ATM product?

    PS - Apple isn't doing as well as they were.
    More relevant to compare to coca cola. Plenty of competition but a strong brand and IP protection gives them a strong position.

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    Spooked a few - down 30c at the moment. Wait until the ASX wakes up.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob View Post
    Spooked a few - down 30c at the moment. Wait until the ASX wakes up.....
    US market down over 2%, our market down only 0.4% as we speak, let's see if the Aussies take notice of the Trumpet.

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