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07-11-2019, 01:46 PM
#14401
Junior Member
I had a question about buying A2M on the ASX. The IRD share exemption tool says that A2M does not qualify under the Australian share exemption :
https://www.classic.ird.govt.nz/calc...calc-2017.html
Is this correct and since I am a NZ resident, I assume I would be better off buying the NZX listed ATM for not having to pay any tax on gains.
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07-11-2019, 01:49 PM
#14402
Last edited by t.rexjr; 07-11-2019 at 01:51 PM.
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07-11-2019, 01:50 PM
#14403
 Originally Posted by steve9
I had a question about buying A2M on the ASX. The IRD share exemption tool says that A2M does not qualify under the Australian share exemption :
https://www.classic.ird.govt.nz/calc...calc-2017.html
Is this correct and since I am a NZ resident, I assume I would be better off buying the NZX listed ATM for not having to pay any tax on gains.
We let the Aussies make and eat pavlova. But it's still ours...
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07-11-2019, 01:59 PM
#14404
 Originally Posted by couta1
Follow the beat of your own drum I say and do what works for you at any given stage, dont let anyone tell you what you can or cant do no matter what their credentials are.. PS-Yes down more than 300k, double that nearly.
Extra homework for you mate. https://www.biblemoneymatters.com/bi...out-investing/
Last edited by Beagle; 07-11-2019 at 02:03 PM.
No butts, hold no mutts, (unless they're the furry variety).
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07-11-2019, 02:11 PM
#14405
 Originally Posted by Beagle
Actually competitive sports can teach you a lot of good traits that you need to be a go hard or go home investor, traits such as Perseverance/Patience/Adaption/Toughness/Vision and a Never say die attitude to name but a few, whoops I must mention multitasking(Yes that includes the ability to trade shares whilst riding the chairlift in a blizzard) PS-You altered your post and removed the bit on sports while I was typing(Naughty)
Last edited by couta1; 07-11-2019 at 02:15 PM.
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07-11-2019, 03:52 PM
#14406
 Originally Posted by steve9
I had a question about buying A2M on the ASX. The IRD share exemption tool says that A2M does not qualify under the Australian share exemption :
https://www.classic.ird.govt.nz/calc...calc-2017.html
Is this correct and since I am a NZ resident, I assume I would be better off buying the NZX listed ATM for not having to pay any tax on gains.
Does not look right. ATM is actually a New Zealand company (which might be the reason that they are not in the IRD FIF tool), and the Australian shares (A2M) are in all ways identical with the New Zealand shares and can be transferred between the stock exchanges as you please.
They (A2M) should not be treated differently from the ATM NZ shares.
I assume IRD made a mistake in their tool based on the ticker being different in Australia or they just don't list NZ companies in their tool (which would make sense, given that this is about Foreign Investment Funds)
Better check with IRD or your accountant, but if it would be me I would not report them under the FIF regime but treat them as any other New Zealand share ...
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" (Niels Bohr)
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07-11-2019, 04:23 PM
#14407
Junior Member
 Originally Posted by BlackPeter
Does not look right. ATM is actually a New Zealand company (which might be the reason that they are not in the IRD FIF tool), and the Australian shares (A2M) are in all ways identical with the New Zealand shares and can be transferred between the stock exchanges as you please.
Agree, A2 is clearly a NZ Registered Company (that trades on the ASX)
Seems like a mistake with the tool.
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07-11-2019, 05:04 PM
#14408
 Originally Posted by steve9
I had a question about buying A2M on the ASX. The IRD share exemption tool says that A2M does not qualify under the Australian share exemption :
https://www.classic.ird.govt.nz/calc...calc-2017.html
Is this correct and since I am a NZ resident, I assume I would be better off buying the NZX listed ATM for not having to pay any tax on gains.
They can be transferred to NZX share registry at no cost I suspect
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07-11-2019, 05:21 PM
#14409
A complete move to the ASX might be good for ATM.
XRO at ATH today - almost at equivalent of $80 NZD!
"Don't be afraid to take a big step if one is indicated. You can't cross a chasm in two small jumps." David Lloyd George
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07-11-2019, 05:32 PM
#14410
Member
There is a different though, XRO is worth it's share price, ATM isn't.
Last edited by bohemian; 07-11-2019 at 05:33 PM.
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07-11-2019, 05:38 PM
#14411
 Originally Posted by bohemian
There is a different though, XRO is worth it's share price, ATM isn't.
Your kidding right, take a look at the PE of XRO and it's only just profitable compared to ATM which is a cash cow. PS-XRO is a great story but your statement is nonsense.
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07-11-2019, 06:49 PM
#14412
 Originally Posted by pierre
A complete move to the ASX might be good for ATM.
XRO at ATH today - almost at equivalent of $80 NZD!
Agreed 100%.
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07-11-2019, 08:38 PM
#14413
Member
 Originally Posted by couta1
Your kidding right, take a look at the PE of XRO and it's only just profitable compared to ATM which is a cash cow. PS-XRO is a great story but your statement is nonsense.
I think he meant to type "Fonterra", instead of "ATM"... Either too much A1 protein, or Cannasouth in the bohemian's brain.
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07-11-2019, 09:51 PM
#14414
Member
 Originally Posted by couta1
Your kidding right, take a look at the PE of XRO and it's only just profitable compared to ATM which is a cash cow. PS-XRO is a great story but your statement is nonsense.
XRO. Could be major cash +ve if they stopped their agressive expansion campaign . It is where it is, due to the fact that is expanding instead of just keeping rhe cash . Looks bad on the balance sheet, but great for future domination . And to think i had loads at $ 5 and sold to pay for my daughters wedding ! JMO
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08-11-2019, 12:36 AM
#14415
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