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03-12-2020, 10:31 PM
#18341
Jake Sullivan one of Joe Biden's senior advisers had a lot more to say..........
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03-12-2020, 10:33 PM
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03-12-2020, 11:19 PM
#18343
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Balance
I'm not going to argue with you there, but regardless, the financial hit to China from "crushing" HK, economic hub / financial centre or otherwise, is surely going to make any such crushing of ATM look minuscule in comparison. So sinlgescul's point that ATM's commercial entanglement with Chinese interests likely means jack when stacked up against ideology likely holds true, IMHO.
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04-12-2020, 08:58 AM
#18344
Do the chinese not know that ATM is a kiwi company?
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04-12-2020, 09:31 AM
#18345
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by bull....
Cheers for the link. Article is worthwhile to read and digest. A bit off topic, but the article conveys a quite interesting (and I think quite understandable) perspective ... :
Quite a few Westerners are living in their own world. They believe that people from other parts of the globe are merely bystanders. They feel uncomfortable when bystanders ask them to do certain things. They will not consider whether such a demand is reasonable or not. They may admit their mistakes on their own, but they won't allow others to point out their mistakes.
They will always stick to such attitudes of superiority, even if the West is declining with decreasing influence.
However, those Westerners need wake up to the fact that developing countries, represented by China, can no longer tolerate their double standards, remain silent or do nothing. The West should take the latest incident as an alarm bell - when they smear other countries with baseless accusations, why can't other countries criticize the West or make well-intentioned suggestions for their misdeeds?
A good reminder that westerners are not the navel of the world ... and an interesting perspective how the others might see us and our actions.
Food for thought - maybe we should walk from time to time in their shoes before we judge over them?
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" (Niels Bohr)
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04-12-2020, 10:03 AM
#18346
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by BlackPeter
Cheers for the link. Article is worthwhile to read and digest. A bit off topic, but the article conveys a quite interesting (and I think quite understandable) perspective ... :
A good reminder that westerners are not the navel of the world ... and an interesting perspective how the others might see us and our actions.
Food for thought - maybe we should walk from time to time in their shoes before we judge over them?
Sounds like all those easterners want to be, and turning into westerners pretty fast. Don't forget the further east you go, the more likely you will become west .
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04-12-2020, 10:09 AM
#18347
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by see weed
Sounds like all those easterners want to be, and turning into westerners pretty fast. Don't forget the further east you go, the more likely you will become west ![Smile_2](images/smilies/001_smile.gif) .
Don't know if you are being ironic Seaweed but I think your comment is the poster child for point the article was making
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04-12-2020, 10:11 AM
#18348
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by steveb
Do the chinese not know that ATM is a kiwi company?
Chinese do know, some people on this forum don’t. This is why Chinese government out of all problems in the world put the idea of crushing atm on top of the pile.
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04-12-2020, 10:13 AM
#18349
We "westerners" were quick to become just like our eastern counterparts not so many years ago, the eastern countries outperformed the west in technology, education and religion for centuries but in the good old western fashion, we robbed them of it and took it for ourselves.
Bit of a low bar to assume others want to be us when our core fundamentals are similar or once were of the the east.
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04-12-2020, 10:14 AM
#18350
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by causecelebre
Don't know if you are being ironic Seaweed but I think your comment is the poster child for point the article was making
Think he has been eating too much seaweed & sweet and sour?
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