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    Oh dear - another of Jayne's Jetstar pals transferring into ATM management.

    https://www.nzx.com/announcements/341408

    While I don't know anything about Race do I start to wonder how Jetstar could perform so poorly under this team which is now "top cream" for ATM?
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    Do you believe that the current CEO's performance has been bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    Oh dear - another of Jayne's Jetstar pals transferring into ATM management.
    https://www.nzx.com/announcements/341408
    Market seems to like it....
    FWIW I like the way it has been handled with the current CFO staying on as added security. The Unilever experience and acquisitions experience could be v good in this role and more than compensates for any Jetstar negatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Left field View Post
    Market seems to like it....
    FWIW I like the way it has been handled with the current CFO staying on as added security. The Unilever experience and acquisitions experience could be v good in this role and more than compensates for any Jetstar negatives.
    Market was already up before that news come out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davflaws View Post
    Do you believe that the current CEO's performance has been bad?
    Too early to measure at this point, give it another year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by couta1 View Post
    Too early to measure at this point, give it another year.
    Looks like a good CFO hire to me and probably attributable to Ms Hrdlicka's previous business relationship while at JetStar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    Looks like a good CFO hire to me and probably attributable to Ms Hrdlicka's previous business relationship while at JetStar.
    Lol Beagle that hiring is not a measure of her performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by couta1 View Post
    Lol Beagle that hiring is not a measure of her performance.
    Well...yes and no...it is probably a measure of the worth of her business contacts network and the regard she is held in, by them.
    Poaching the CFO of well performing Qantas looks like a pretty good hire to me. They've been pretty good at counting beans over there...
    Some very good experience http://www.sharechat.co.nz/article/0...ilk-as-cfohtml
    Need to count lots of beans before you learn to spot the bad and doubtful ones...no substitute for experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davflaws View Post
    Do you believe that the current CEO's performance has been bad?
    Unfortunately it takes five years (give or take a year) to really assess the performance of a CEO - and until then they typically move on.

    I don't think that she did a great job at Jetstar ... and she had already a handful of slips at ATM. Sure - she is a smooth talker, but is this enough to bring this company to the next level ? I doubt it.

    Somewhat concerned as well about the huge blowout of senior positions under her reign. You need a small team of top performers to run a high performance company, not lots of average people ...

    If Jetstar really had this unique combination of top people in their leadership ranks, than I find it hard to understand why they are such an underperformer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    Unfortunately it takes five years (give or take a year) to really assess the performance of a CEO - and until then they typically move on.

    I don't think that she did a great job at Jetstar ... and she had already a handful of slips at ATM. Sure - she is a smooth talker, but is this enough to bring this company to the next level ? I doubt it.

    Somewhat concerned as well about the huge blowout of senior positions under her reign. You need a small team of top performers to run a high performance company, not lots of average people ...

    If Jetstar really had this unique combination of top people in their leadership ranks, than I find it hard to understand why they are such an underperformer.
    Agree 100%. Gargantuan increase in spending on marketing too going forward. Very very different approach to Geoffrey Babbage. Jayne says all the low hanging easy fruit has already been picked or words to that effect. A cynic might suggest you can usually mark out underperformers when they pre-prepare their excuses for lower future growth.
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