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18-11-2020, 09:17 AM
#17941
No 2nd downgrade balance.
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18-11-2020, 09:19 AM
#17942
Originally Posted by alokdhir
Did mention 24% English label increase at 11/11 sales
Also noted that reconfirmation of previous guidance is shaky due to ongoing Covid problems ...talked about many assumptions ahead ...makes me wonder !!!
Normal conservative narrative from the company, all eyes now on the HY report, if its good then we are off to the races.
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18-11-2020, 09:21 AM
#17943
Originally Posted by Gregnz
in fairness they wouldn't be re-confirming guidance if their was no hope in hell of it being achieved. I agree with their comment to note volatility from Covid, they are basically saying that if China, Australia, NZ perhaps all ended up back in lockdown with massive outbreaks of Covid, it would be difficult to achieve guidance. Thats fair, given all the unknowns with Covid. Do we even have a vaccine, will it even work??
Fair enough ! Good part is that no further downgrade as mentioned by many that they come in 3's ...though they left the door open ... Here no one knows the future but its safe to assume that its only going to be better with time on Covid control progress ...
No big rush of selling I see so far ...Ozzy's are unknown here !!! So slow grind up as mentioned by many ...thats positive
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18-11-2020, 09:24 AM
#17944
Originally Posted by couta1
Normal conservative narrative from the company, all eyes now on the HY report, if its good then we are off to the races.
When do we usually see the half year, memory not good. I seem to remember towards end Feb?
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18-11-2020, 09:26 AM
#17945
Originally Posted by Gregnz
When do we usually see the half year, memory not good. I seem to remember towards end Feb?
Yep thats the one.
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18-11-2020, 09:36 AM
#17946
I honestly want Chairman Mr Hearn to go....adds not much value imo being UK domiciled. Sure we can find someone more capable to step in closer to home, here's a thought how about Geoff for Chairman role after he finishes up from his current interim CEO role.
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18-11-2020, 09:43 AM
#17947
Consolidation, not consolation.
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18-11-2020, 09:50 AM
#17948
Pretty much as expected. I expected the caveats and cautions to come out and they have. They are certainly covering their butt with statements like these
• However, due to the volatility arising from COVID-19, and the difficulties this presents with forecasting, naturally there is
uncertainty to this forecast
• We also acknowledge the outlook provides for a significant increase in revenue in the second half, dependent on a
number of key assumptions, including an improvement in the daigou channel and continued growth in our China label
business
• We continue to observe strong underlying brand health metrics, in particular in China, including market share expansion,
and growth of brand awareness and loyalty measures. This gives us confidence that, notwithstanding the current
headwinds, the fundamentals of the business over the medium term remain sound
They are certainly giving themselves plenty of "outs" if things go wrong which is what I expected. Fundamentals over the medium term remain sound is code speak for in the short term the headwinds are fairly strong and challenging.
I'm staying out as I think there's plenty of scope for their assumptions about the second half to be proven to be too optimistic. Time will tell. Good luck to holders.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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18-11-2020, 09:56 AM
#17949
Originally Posted by Beagle
Pretty much as expected. I expected the caveats and cautions to come out and they have. They are certainly covering their butt with statements like these
• However, due to the volatility arising from COVID-19, and the difficulties this presents with forecasting, naturally there is
uncertainty to this forecast
• We also acknowledge the outlook provides for a significant increase in revenue in the second half, dependent on a
number of key assumptions, including an improvement in the daigou channel and continued growth in our China label
business
• We continue to observe strong underlying brand health metrics, in particular in China, including market share expansion,
and growth of brand awareness and loyalty measures. This gives us confidence that, notwithstanding the current
headwinds, the fundamentals of the business over the medium term remain sound
They are certainly giving themselves plenty of "outs" if things go wrong which is what I expected. Fundamentals over the medium term remain sound is code speak for in the short term the headwinds are fairly strong and challenging.
I'm staying out as I think there's plenty of scope for their assumptions about the second half to be proven to be too optimistic. Time will tell. Good luck to holders.
A2 aren't exactly the only company out there "butt covering" with lack of forecasts, caveats and overriding statements.
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18-11-2020, 10:05 AM
#17950
Originally Posted by Beagle
Pretty much as expected. I expected the caveats and cautions to come out and they have. They are certainly covering their butt with statements like these
• However, due to the volatility arising from COVID-19, and the difficulties this presents with forecasting, naturally there is
uncertainty to this forecast
• We also acknowledge the outlook provides for a significant increase in revenue in the second half, dependent on a
number of key assumptions, including an improvement in the daigou channel and continued growth in our China label
business
• We continue to observe strong underlying brand health metrics, in particular in China, including market share expansion,
and growth of brand awareness and loyalty measures. This gives us confidence that, notwithstanding the current
headwinds, the fundamentals of the business over the medium term remain sound
They are certainly giving themselves plenty of "outs" if things go wrong which is what I expected. Fundamentals over the medium term remain sound is code speak for in the short term the headwinds are fairly strong and challenging.
I'm staying out as I think there's plenty of scope for their assumptions about the second half to be proven to be too optimistic. Time will tell. Good luck to holders.
Off course your staying out cause you were hardly ever in anyway.
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