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    Quote Originally Posted by nextbigthing View Post
    How do you figure this Winner? No SSH to my notice other than them buying @75c
    They sold 6,500,000 on 23/4 and there was another sell of 5 million odd as well.

    In the detail of the notices

    Yes they have been buying more than selling but can't be doing their funds any good at the moment eh.

    All a mystery to me at the moment ....just seems to be a long long downtrend

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    Apparently free float number of shares is 414 million

    So 174 million volume over last six months is an annualised churn rate of 85%

    Take into account that MAC et all aren't trading either maybe churn is close to annualised 100%

    All the free float shares get churned once a year ......not much loyalty here?

    Good or bad? I have no idea

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    Bugger those Death Crosses eh Hoop

    Suppose we need to wait for the green line to cross the purple line on the way up before we start cheering

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    Unusual numbered trades can be...
    1...a seller sell all of their shares..which is in odd numbers and a buyer has bought that number
    2...More than one buyer buying up a single seller round numbered trade
    3...A buyer buying up whats left at the price they want

    Small amounts
    Usually the client sets the buy price ..as the market is a variable complete orders don't always happen at once..it may take days to fill an order..The client only pays the one fee on completion of the order or when the order expires...I have seen 1 share traded to complete an order..

    Same amounts
    This seems like a double up error..but there could be a rational answer..Maybe someone can tell us more about that (Silverlight?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by snapiti View Post
    I have been putting a lot of thought into my ATM investment of late....... mainly because I don't mind cutting my losses on any investment and given ATM continue's to drift lower my losses are expanding.
    However after looking at the basic's of the business and the continued raging debate about their product a few things jump out.
    Revenue is double what it was 2-3 years ago(these are not small numbers), they have a strategy in place to take their product global albeit I don't agree with them trying to conker so many markets at once, the continued raging debate both negative and positive is all free marketing and exposure(any business in any sector would love to have so much free market exposure).
    Yep they have made some BIG mistakes, looks like the Fresha deal in NZ is restraining sales and their first attempt at Europe was a flop......... but what company does not make mistakes.
    The falling farm gate price of milk and falling kiwi $ is very positive for this company.
    Like I say I have no trouble in cutting my losses (ave buy in 72cps) but after reviewing the investment I am not interested in selling even though I believe we may continue to drift lower.

    keep the good work up seeweed.
    Likewise here, but admit, got a bit nervous on 30/9/14 with all those little sell downs. Ended up selling 16% of my holding, for two reasons...1/ To get my average price down. 2. To get my average price down again when I buy back in.

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    Trying to follow all these acromyms. SSH?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harrie View Post
    Trying to follow all these acromyms. SSH?
    https://www.nzx.com/files/documents/...es%20FINAL.pdf

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    Substantial Security Holder notice

    One discloses -

    When you go over 5% of the shares in a company
    When you go under 5% of the share in a company
    When your substantial shareholding changes by 1% or more (increase or decrease)
    Last edited by winner69; 02-10-2014 at 11:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    They sold 6,500,000 on 23/4 and there was another sell of 5 million odd as well.

    In the detail of the notices

    Yes they have been buying more than selling but can't be doing their funds any good at the moment eh.

    All a mystery to me at the moment ....just seems to be a long long downtrend
    As per this link;

    https://www.nzx.com/markets/NZSX/sec.../announcements

    I can only find notices of Milford buying up large, not selling. Can you point me to it specifically?

    Buying from 65,240,424 earlier in the year to 97,877,776 in July as per the annoucements below;

    https://www.nzx.com/companies/ATM/announcements/249100
    https://www.nzx.com/companies/ATM/announcements/252821

    Their average buy in price must be pretty up there, perhaps 75c or so? They are still happily holding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nextbigthing View Post
    As per this link;

    https://www.nzx.com/markets/NZSX/sec.../announcements

    I can only find notices of Milford buying up large, not selling. Can you point me to it specifically?

    Buying from 65,240,424 earlier in the year to 97,877,776 in July as per the annoucements below;

    https://www.nzx.com/companies/ATM/announcements/249100
    https://www.nzx.com/companies/ATM/announcements/252821

    Their average buy in price must be pretty up there, perhaps 75c or so? They are still happily holding.
    in the detail this notice they sold 6,500,000 shares

    https://www.nzx.com/files/attachments/195012.pdf

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