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    Hedging there bets. Simply write off 2021 and set the benchmark for 2022 beyond. Hopefully lessons learned and lessons gained.

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...4NZHO5NEPS2FE/

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    Preview of what analysts are looking for in ATM's results announcement tomorrow.

    Huge spread in analysts' 2022 forecast - so a lot of interest in what kind of guidance (if any) ATM will be giving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by see weed View Post
    Maybe someone has heard something positive before results come out?
    im picking very good US results , they have run out of milk in the US recently due to schools going back etc . im in for a trade yesterday also i forgot to add in my haste if the the recent lockdown in china is anything to go by if looking at comparison period last feb 2020 sales china there should have been a surge in sales recently last 2 mths maybe
    Last edited by bull....; 25-08-2021 at 11:26 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    pre announcement rally today?
    Real market opens in 3 minutes.

    NZX is all noise & no substance before ASX opens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    im picking very good US results , they have run out of milk in the US recently due to schools going back etc . im in for a trade yesterday also i forgot to add in my haste if the the recent lockdown in china is anything to go by if looking at comparison period last feb 2020 sales china there should have been a surge in sales recently last 2 mths maybe
    Means even bigger losses in the US?

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    Just having fond memories of 42 months ago on 20/2/18, day before results and scrapping up some cash and topping up with an extra 21,000 ATM @ $9.50c and selling them next day for a quick trade at $11 before ASX opened, and they kept going up another $1 or so after ASX opened. Those were the days my friend we thought they would never end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Means even bigger losses in the US?
    its called investing for growth , the revenue growth is more important. capital management plans announcement tomorrow ? anyway take care folks this is a volatile stock at times up and down so take your guess for tomorrow announcement at your own risk if you trade
    Last edited by bull....; 25-08-2021 at 12:36 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    its called investing for growth , the revenue growth is more important. capital management plans announcement tomorrow ? anyway take care folks this is a volatile stock at times up and down so take your guess for tomorrow announcement at your own risk if you trade
    That’s what they all like to say!

    I am picking a really downbeat & sober commentary tomorrow - with no material improvements. Heaps of money to be outlaid in the next 12 months to ‘protect’ the brand and stop further deterioration in sales in China - declining birth rate, strong domestic brand competition and geopolitical risk to the fore.

    Not investing for growth but to stop further decline.
    Last edited by Balance; 25-08-2021 at 12:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by see weed View Post
    Maybe someone has heard something positive before results come out?
    Buy the rumour and sell the fact?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    Buy the rumour and sell the fact?
    Who knows, but ATM is already 33% up from the low-point following the 4th downgrade, it's technically (chart) broken out of even the most conservative down-trend line, is well above 50EMA - firing buy signals all over the place.

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