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    You are right snapiti and it is a real shame how this deleting stuff works ! It is also a real shame how many posters have to get personal and abusive !

    Hey but roll on the 25th and the HY announcement
    I have been excitedly waiting for updates on China & UK and still do. But after a bit more research and thinking, maybe A2 Platinum sales into Australia may be the pleasant surprise coming our way, just ahead of the ASX listing !

    Quote Originally Posted by snapiti View Post
    I think you will find some members have deleted or have had their accounts deleted due to the peb thread which will mean all thier posting on all threads will go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by airedale View Post
    Millie Hinkle was the expert who was speaking in favour of camel milk, and also there was a guy from Perth who described similar problems as Left Field. All sorted now after trying camel's milk. a2 should get in touch with Millie Hinkle and tell her about the benefits thereof. Not least the price.
    It seems that there is more nutritional value and less lactose in camel milk than exists in a2 cows milk.
    We know that camel milk has only the a2 protein so the question that was not answered was, would the guy from Perth have suffered the same problems as he experienced with regular cows milk by drinking a2 milk.
    You may have thought that Millie Hinkle would have suggested he try that at least.

    Would not be surprised to see the Australians shutting down the supply of raw camel milk, the same way as they have shut down the supply of raw milk elsewhere in Australia.

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    raw cow milk is not safe.. not sure about camel milk tho..

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    Quote Originally Posted by babymonster View Post
    raw cow milk is not safe.. not sure about camel milk tho..
    True - Raw milk from dodgy farmers and milk processors ignoring hygienic requirements is not safe. Unfortunately there are farmers and milk processors in New Zealand who are not always at the top of what's required to keep raw milk save. Just have a look at some farms ... if the cows have the runs (as I have often seen on NZ farms), if all available space for the cows is covered with dung and the cows have clots of dung at their utter (again - indication for overpopulation and not enough focus on cleaning up the land and the animals), than yes, I would not recommend to drink raw milk from these farmers. Obviously - if the processors contaminate the milk (not unheard of for Fonterra), than this does not help either. Yes, milk produced and processed this way must be treated. But honestly - who would want to drink this anyway?

    However - if you know where the raw milk is coming from and know that the producer take milk only from healthy and clean animals with enough space and if you know they know their hygiene 101, than there is nothing unsafe about drinking raw milk.

    I did drink raw milk all my life (as a child purchased from farmers I or my family knew and later in life taken from our own cows) and our children grew up with this diet into healthy adults. Never ever had we (or anybody else consuming our milk) any problems from drinking raw milk.

    Only difference - it tastes much better than the processed stuff ... and funnily many people allergic against commercially processed milk can drink ours. Yes, raw milk does not keep for ages, but it is not unhealthy if it gets off - it just changes its taste (which some people like, and others don't). Anyway, if it goes off you still can make delicious cheese with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harrie View Post
    ....It seems that there is more nutritional value and less lactose in camel milk than exists in a2 cows milk. We know that camel milk has only the a2 protein so the question that was not answered was, would the guy from Perth have suffered the same problems as he experienced with regular cows milk by drinking a2 milk.....
    You're right Harrie, that question should have been probed, and the guy might have saved himself enough money to buy a luxury tour to the Middle East and ride a camel to the Pyramids.. Actually the camels-milk farmer near Perth has been in the news for some time for providing raw unpasteurised camel milk (not legal but he has ways to get around that), and a TV reporter who did some research (unusual) found that in the Middle East it is widely used for the treatment of autism and asthma. One man she spoke to suffers from Common Variable Immune Deficiency (CVID) - a cancer-related disease which often has a very poor prognosis - and swears by it being a staple in his diet. She also said the science behind the milk shows it can also help treat diabetes, cholesterol, Irritable Bowel Syndrome, Crohn’s disease, hepatitis and leaky gut. Some of these are mentioned in Prof Woodford's book.

    Actually sheep's milk is another available option to cow's milk, which I like very much and has a higher nutritional value than cow's milk but is expensive and not easy to find in NZ shops. Sheep's milk is drunk very widely in many countries, and a Southland farming enterprise is getting into it in a big way but unfortunately it's mostly for export.

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    In the past few days, it always closes a bit lower than the sp during most of that day. Errr

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    Not wishing to flog a dead camel as it were, but the former CEO of Australia's first commercial camel dairy was reported last year by the Sydney Morning Herald as saying more than 300,000 camels are estimated to be roaming in the desert, putting Australia in a unique position to capitalise on the market for camel's milk. It didn't say what he was charging for it, but said "We had people coming in and buying the milk for diabetes, autism, lactose intolerance and kid's allergies."

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    Quote Originally Posted by NT001 View Post
    Not wishing to flog a dead camel as it were, but the former CEO of Australia's first commercial camel dairy was reported last year by the Sydney Morning Herald as saying more than 300,000 camels are estimated to be roaming in the desert, putting Australia in a unique position to capitalise on the market for camel's milk. It didn't say what he was charging for it, but said "We had people coming in and buying the milk for diabetes, autism, lactose intolerance and kid's allergies."
    The guy on tv1 on sunday handed over two $50 notes for 4litres of camel milk for him and his son, and there was no change.

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    Question for you NT.

    In your opinion would you consider that camel, sheep, buffalo milk etc would be more effective/potent in ameliorating diabetes, autism, cholesterol, Irritable Bowel Syndrome, Crohn’s disease, hepatitis and leaky gut etc, than a2 milk?

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    Is it a good time to top up this afternoon to avoid the made rush tomorrow morning following all the good and positive announcements? Or is it a good time to sell this afternoon to avoid the made rush out the back door, due to bad negative announcements? It will all come out in the wash tomorrow. Good luck to all holders.

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