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    .....perhaps the expected improvement of CEN's fortunes (and for shareholders)....aint gonna happen then.......cynical.....nahhh

    CEN has responded to me...the fall is probably due to the Rio/Bluff story this AM....
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    For what it's worth. From Macquarie today:

    "Contact Energy CEN Outperform

    Retail prices will defy wholesale gloom

    FY12 result 14 August. CEN provided FY12 EBITDAF guidance of ~$500m (down from $520m+ at the FY11 result). Macq. is lower at $481m (consensus $514m)
    We think an increasing focus on CEN’s FCF growth (x2 CPI) and reduced retail electricity margin pressure will be key drivers of MT performance.
    Downside risks from higher cost-to-hedge, over-supplied wholesale market, index changes and competing MOM supply are now well understood by market. "

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    ...thanks mac....do you think was scribed before Rio made that statement...

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    QUOTE=macduffy;378632]For what it's worth. From Macquarie today:

    "Contact Energy CEN Outperform

    Retail prices will defy wholesale gloom

    FY12 result 14 August. CEN provided FY12 EBITDAF guidance of ~$500m (down from $520m+ at the FY11 result). Macq. is lower at $481m (consensus $514m)
    We think an increasing focus on CEN’s FCF growth (x2 CPI) and reduced retail electricity margin pressure will be key drivers of MT performance.
    Downside risks from higher cost-to-hedge, over-supplied wholesale market, index changes and competing MOM supply are now well understood by market. "[/QUOTE]

    I could add a few more positives to that- more geothermal coming on line,cheap gas supply and storage,increased inter-island capacity and lower interest rates . They have also been accumulating high users and good payers .It will take time for the market to realise the stars are lining up for contact

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    results out today
    2nd half should be much more profitable and annual result up 7% approx-I bought more yesterday -market overly fearful of losing aluminium smelter

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    Quote Originally Posted by fish View Post
    results out today
    2nd half should be much more profitable and annual result up 7% approx-I bought more yesterday -market overly fearful of losing aluminium smelter
    results are up more than even i expected-gross profit up more like 27%-sold 4% more electricity at bigger margins-looks like this will be sustained.12 cent dividend as shares-next year likely to be cash

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    Quote Originally Posted by fish View Post
    results are up more than even i expected-gross profit up more like 27%-sold 4% more electricity at bigger margins-looks like this will be sustained.12 cent dividend as shares-next year likely to be cash
    raw EPS is up 12.8%
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    normalised EPS is up 4.0%

    back to sleep
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    sorry pt -but a much better than anticipated result nevertheless
    i have always enjoyed waking people up

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    Profit Distribution Plan strike price has been set at $4.87.

    With current SP at $5.06, I'll accept the bonus shares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macduffy View Post
    Profit Distribution Plan strike price has been set at $4.87.

    With current SP at $5.06, I'll accept the bonus shares.
    Just dont sell them too soon !
    Electricity Spot prices are phenomenal in the north island atm-over $1000-I have never seen them so high

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