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03-05-2019, 09:04 AM
#16851
http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/new...er-cancer-test
From a disgruntled shareholder who asked if PEB ever highlighted this - as it explains why the relentless search for a better urine test continues.
Going back too far to recall but fair enough point?
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03-05-2019, 09:09 AM
#16852
Does Harbour still hold a decent chunk of PEB
They pretty well regarded manager
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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03-05-2019, 10:20 AM
#16853
Originally Posted by Balance
Sigh, I don't understand. Why have you brought this (almost 5 year old) piece of riveting journalism to our attention? You say it is from a disgruntled shareholder, was the journalist a disgruntled shareholder? Are you the disgruntled shareholder? What did the digruntled shareholder ask? If this "news' item had been highlighted? How does it explain the relentless search for a better urine test? What don't you recall and what iis the point you make?
Yes. Pacific Edge have offered the CxBladder test online for 4 or 5 years, still do. The test helps rule out bladder cancer, the results are sent to your GP. PE makes it clear that haematuria can be caused by all sorts of things, foods, trauma, etc. But one on ten may be as a result of bladder cancer, and this is the cause one should be most concerned about.
And yes, the Urologists (who make a lot of money from unecessary and invasive cystoscopies) may miss out occassionally.
So what? Have there been cases in the last 5 years where people have ordered the test and then died of food colouring or something? What are you saying?
Do you doubt the accuracy of the test? Have you raised your concerns with the DHB's that are using it?
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03-05-2019, 10:32 AM
#16854
Originally Posted by winner69
Does Harbour still hold a decent chunk of PEB
They pretty well regarded manager
Yes, about 17% .
Harbour says:
Responsible Investing
Harbour is a market leader for integrating ESG research into our investment process, and we have been signatories to the UN Principles of Responsible Investment since August 2010.
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03-05-2019, 11:23 AM
#16855
Originally Posted by psychic
Yes, about 17% .
Harbour says:
Responsible Investing
Harbour is a market leader for integrating ESG research into our investment process, and we have been signatories to the UN Principles of Responsible Investment since August 2010.
Choking on their ESG investment in PEB, with ever increasing stake and increasing losses.
Next underwrite should see them go to 19.999% after which other shareholders may get a chance to be bailed out by Harbour too?
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03-05-2019, 11:28 AM
#16856
Originally Posted by psychic
Sigh, I don't understand. Why have you brought this (almost 5 year old) piece of riveting journalism to our attention? You say it is from a disgruntled shareholder, was the journalist a disgruntled shareholder? Are you the disgruntled shareholder? What did the digruntled shareholder ask? If this "news' item had been highlighted? How does it explain the relentless search for a better urine test? What don't you recall and what iis the point you make?
Yes. Pacific Edge have offered the CxBladder test online for 4 or 5 years, still do. The test helps rule out bladder cancer, the results are sent to your GP. PE makes it clear that haematuria can be caused by all sorts of things, foods, trauma, etc. But one on ten may be as a result of bladder cancer, and this is the cause one should be most concerned about.
And yes, the Urologists (who make a lot of money from unecessary and invasive cystoscopies) may miss out occassionally.
So what? Have there been cases in the last 5 years where people have ordered the test and then died of food colouring or something? What are you saying?
Do you doubt the accuracy of the test? Have you raised your concerns with the DHB's that are using it?
Gee - now that's how you should be questioning PEB's directors and management about their non-delivery of :
1. $100m revenues by 2019,
2. Full CMS coverage,
3. Real sales (remember the fictitious sales?),
4. Contracts with Kaiser & other test program partners,
5. Profitability and cashflow positivity,
6. Etc etc etc
After spending $200m to show bugger all against their stated aims above!
Instead, you think shooting the messenger will bring PEB success with the clowns in charge?
Last edited by Balance; 03-05-2019 at 11:30 AM.
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03-05-2019, 12:25 PM
#16857
lets face it guys this one is a punt,if it comes off great if not you have gone into it with a good chance that you will lose your money,if Harbour think they can afford a punt on them,well good luck to them.Me I sold a couple of months ago and yes I lost a bit,but so what.
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03-05-2019, 01:30 PM
#16858
Originally Posted by steveb
lets face it guys this one is a punt,if it comes off great if not you have gone into it with a good chance that you will lose your money,if Harbour think they can afford a punt on them,well good luck to them.Me I sold a couple of months ago and yes I lost a bit,but so what.
A punt implies that there are considered odds on winning?
Given the track record of this company, its directors and management of mismanaging this company and squandering $200m, is there really any hope of a favorable odd with this 'punt'?
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10-05-2019, 12:24 PM
#16859
Some big retail holders want out...
Balance did you put that order in for 5c?
Last edited by Schrodinger; 10-05-2019 at 12:28 PM.
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10-05-2019, 12:32 PM
#16860
They on phone again to Dave ....’Dave, time for another announcement but make sure it’s positive”
Needs to do it soon as results out in a few weeks
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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