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17-11-2019, 11:11 AM
#2561
Originally Posted by Raz
If you were comparing disposable income basis, social/economic, you would look at dollar for dollar, Taco Bell in the US is budget.
In dollar terms, $US3.31 (or $US3.44 including a 4% sales tax) for a 'Double Taco Supreme' in Hawaii and $NZ8.50 for what looks like the same thing in NZ is hardly egalitarian. Yet in wage terms, the minimum wages in Hawaii is currently $US10.10 per hour vs $NZ17.70 per hour in New Zealand. So if we calculate the number of 'Double Taco Supremes' that can be bought with the gross earnings of a minimum wage worker in an hour I get:
Hawaii: $US10.10 / $US3.44 = 2.94
New Zealand: $NZ17.70 / $US8.50 = 2.08
So as a rich country with high minimum wages, we aren't as badly off as just looking at those dollar prices alone might make you think. If Taco Bell has chosen not to aim for the 'low end' of the takeaway food market in NZ offering really cut prices it might be a smart move. There may not be enough poor people in Auckland to support a genuine US style Taco Bell?
Originally Posted by Raz
Hawaii is expensive for a US state and given the level of tourism. It's the place you go in the middle of the night en-route on a long road trip...starving is the prerequisite to enjoy the food, always drive through as the car park and around the restaurant is borderline dangerous. It food for the masses of working poor in the US, although I will say I actually like it
My reasons for quoting Hawaiian prices were two fold:
1/ Both Hawaii and New Zealand are prime tourism destinations.
2/ Taco Bell is run in both countries by 'Restaurant Brands New Zealand'
I have never spent any time in Hawaii myself. However, on talking to someone who has I was told there is very much a two tier tourist market. You are either:
1/ a hotel customer or
2/ a tenter who gets up to decamp at the crack of dawn to avoid the state ranger coming around to collect the state camping ground fee.
There isn't much in between. So maybe your picture of Taco Bell in Hawaii as a 'crime scene in waiting' frequented by the desperate is not so far from the truth Raz?
SNOOPY
Last edited by Snoopy; 17-11-2019 at 02:24 PM.
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17-11-2019, 02:20 PM
#2562
Originally Posted by Snoopy
In dollar terms, $US3.31 (or $US3.44 including a 4% sales tax) for a 'Double Taco Supreme' in Hawaii and $NZ8.50 for what looks like the same thing in NZ is hardly egalitarian. Yet in wage terms, the minimum wages in Hawaii is currently $US10.10 per hour vs $NZ17.70 per hour in New Zealand. So if we calculate the number of 'Double Taco Supremes' that can be bought with the gross earnings of a minimum wage worker in an hour I get:
Hawaii: $US10.10 / $US3.44 = 2.94
New Zealand: $NZ17.70 / $US8.50 = 2.08
So as a rich country with high minimum wages, we aren't as badly off as just looking at those dollar prices alone might make you think. If Taco Bell has chosen not to aim for the 'low end' of the takeaway food market in NZ offering really cut prices it might be a smart move. There may not be enough poor people in Auckland to support a genuine US style Taco Bell?
My reasons for quoting Hawaiian prices were two fold:
1/ Both Hawaii and New Zealand are prime tourism destinations.
2/ Taco Bell is run in both countries by 'Restaurant Brands New Zealand'
I have never spent any time in Hawaii myself. However, on talking to someone who has I was told there is very much a two tier tourist market. You are either:
1/ a hotel customer or
2/ a tenter who gets up to decamp at the crack of dawn to avoid the state ranger coming around to collect state camping ground fee.
There isn't much in between. So maybe your picture of Taco Bell in Hawaii as a 'crime scene in waiting' frequented by the desperate is not so far from the truth Raz?
SNOOPY
Hawaii is very different to New Zealand economic wise, it is a tourist destination however really a group of small Islands with a few defence bases. The poor half certainly live in what is more like an island back water. Think Fiji, inland basic houses with cheap apartments for the main workers in the main city of Waikiki. Min. wage means little when the majority of jobs are hospitality, priced on a tip based culture .
It is an outlier to other states within the US and except for RB Taco same ownership I would say a totally different economy to NZ. The concept is from the mainland USA where it is budget grub, how they sell it otherwise here is my question. Those prices mention in Hawaii are higher than what I pay, say in LA, from my experience. i get a meal of several item and drink for less than $5 US each when there. We are getting in NZ rather expensive for takeaways here so perhaps it is possible..
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08-12-2019, 08:59 AM
#2563
”When investors are euphoric, they are incapable of recognising euphoria itself “
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08-12-2019, 09:47 AM
#2564
Originally Posted by winner69
Starting to look like what the Catholic Church used to do - protect the abusers, promote and move them to other locations and blame the victims?
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08-12-2019, 10:01 AM
#2565
Originally Posted by Balance
Starting to look like what the Catholic Church used to do - protect the abusers, promote and move them to other locations and blame the victims?
....and if corporates see staff are just another consumable such things will continue
Shareholder profits first
Last edited by winner69; 08-12-2019 at 10:09 AM.
”When investors are euphoric, they are incapable of recognising euphoria itself “
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08-12-2019, 10:43 AM
#2566
Last edited by Balance; 08-12-2019 at 10:54 AM.
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08-12-2019, 10:46 AM
#2567
Originally Posted by Snoopy
In dollar terms, $US3.31 (or $US3.44 including a 4% sales tax) for a 'Double Taco Supreme' in Hawaii and $NZ8.50 for what looks like the same thing in NZ is hardly egalitarian. Yet in wage terms, the minimum wages in Hawaii is currently $US10.10 per hour vs $NZ17.70 per hour in New Zealand. So if we calculate the number of 'Double Taco Supremes' that can be bought with the gross earnings of a minimum wage worker in an hour I get:
Hawaii: $US10.10 / $US3.44 = 2.94
New Zealand: $NZ17.70 / $US8.50 = 2.08
So as a rich country with high minimum wages, we aren't as badly off as just looking at those dollar prices alone might make you think. If Taco Bell has chosen not to aim for the 'low end' of the takeaway food market in NZ offering really cut prices it might be a smart move. There may not be enough poor people in Auckland to support a genuine US style Taco Bell?
My reasons for quoting Hawaiian prices were two fold:
1/ Both Hawaii and New Zealand are prime tourism destinations.
2/ Taco Bell is run in both countries by 'Restaurant Brands New Zealand'
I have never spent any time in Hawaii myself. However, on talking to someone who has I was told there is very much a two tier tourist market. You are either:
1/ a hotel customer or
2/ a tenter who gets up to decamp at the crack of dawn to avoid the state ranger coming around to collect the state camping ground fee.
There isn't much in between. So maybe your picture of Taco Bell in Hawaii as a 'crime scene in waiting' frequented by the desperate is not so far from the truth Raz?
SNOOPY
https://www.thebalance.com/what-is-t...-index-1978992
the Big Mac index is always interesting.
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08-12-2019, 10:56 AM
#2568
Originally Posted by winner69
I see the writer is Alison Mau, #MeTooNZ Reporter for Stuff.
If RBD thinks the CEO apology will shut this scandal down, I suspect they have a rude awakening ahead - there will be many more articles ahead as it's likely that other RBD staff members will come forward and tell their stories.
What happens when you hire the wrong HR people.
Last edited by Balance; 08-12-2019 at 11:09 AM.
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08-12-2019, 11:39 AM
#2569
Originally Posted by Balance
I see the writer is Alison Mau, #MeTooNZ Reporter for Stuff.
If RBD thinks the CEO apology will shut this scandal down, I suspect they have a rude awakening ahead - there will be many more articles ahead as it's likely that other RBD staff members will come forward and tell their stories.
What happens when you hire the wrong HR people.
Chief NZ HR been in that role since mid 2018 but was doing serious HR work for them in year earlier
The Group Chief HR been around for zonks
So the people who mattered were around when the rape complaint was made.
And throughout this sorry saga Russel has been around.
Last edited by winner69; 08-12-2019 at 11:43 AM.
”When investors are euphoric, they are incapable of recognising euphoria itself “
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08-12-2019, 11:49 AM
#2570
RBD Board never had many female directors.
”When investors are euphoric, they are incapable of recognising euphoria itself “
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