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    Quote Originally Posted by ace5715 View Post
    With Fisher and Paykel now owned by Haier Scott's will struggle to get direct sales from Haier who they have previously worked for.
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    As a note about the productions lines for Haier, the hot water cylinder project it's self was a sub contract to Fisher and Paykel, via their PML or Production Machinery Limited division. The washer cabinet line for China was also a sub contract to F&P.
    Thanks for this clarification Ace.

    In light of one of your previous posts on this thread (first quote above) you must be surprised at how Scott's have wangled their way back into servicing Haier, even if it is through a sub contract! Do you have any insight as to how have Scott's been able to achieve this, given that in the past PML would have surely handled this work in house? Are you subtley suggesting that the PML division within Haier's sudsidiary Fisher and Paykel Appliances is having their capability being run down?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoopy View Post
    Thanks for this clarification Ace.

    In light of one of your previous posts on this thread (first quote above) you must be surprised at how Scott's have wangled their way back into servicing Haier, even if it is through a sub contract! Do you have any insight as to how have Scott's been able to achieve this, given that in the past PML would have surely handled this work in house? Are you subtley suggesting that the PML division within Haier's sudsidiary Fisher and Paykel Appliances is having their capability being run down?

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    Not surprised as they were sub contracting to PML, PML is actually growing and were full to capacity otherwise the jobs would of been done in house. Giving the job to Scott's I believe was about PML keeping control of the work and keeping the work in New Zealand and the work not being given to another supplier (not Scott's more than likely a European machinery supplier).

    The other point to be made is that PML and Scotts while they have always competed for the same work from the various appliance manufactures have different skill sets and expertise. Scotts have had more recent hot water cylinder line experience as they did a very similar line for Dux Australia a year or so ago and Washer Cabinet lines have also been a strength of theirs, PML "specialise" in different machinery.

    I don't see them getting direct work from Haier, only the work PML allows them to do as a sub contractor due to PML capacity restrictions. Certainly not suggesting that PML are being run down but there are only a limited amount of people you can employ with the skills to do the job. The job market for good mechanical designers, control systems engineers and mechanical fitters is very tight at the moment.

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