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    Quote Originally Posted by kiora View Post
    Collaboration for charging E vehicles with CAT
    For refueling diesel. How big is this?
    https://scottautomation.com/en/produ...ation/robofuel
    You are conflating a couple of stories here. That video link concerns the robo-filling of giant diesel dump trucks.

    The world needs materials to be mined. But it is a dirty business, unfortunately. So one way miners can 'cut down on their filth' is to remove the diesel emissions of their heavy vehicles on site. Caterpillar, is a large US manufacturer of 'off highway' commercial vehicles. Caterpillar dump trucks can haul up to 400tons of material, and such vehicles can cost up to $US3.5million each. Caterpillar are now looking at supplementing their diesel truck range with equivalent sized electric vehicles.

    https://www.caterpillar.com/en/news/...ing-truck.html

    Electrical energy cannot be stored as 'weight effectively' as diesel oil. That means giant electrically fuelled off road trucks will have to be re-fuelled more often if they want to do the same task as their diesel powered equivalents.

    Scott's have their own proven robotic technology to refuel 'off road' diesel mining trucks. Caterpillar have seen this and have signed a co-operative deal with Scotts:

    1/ Caterpillar will supply the electric off road dump trucks.
    2/ Scotts will supply the on site 'electric fuel bowsers' to do robotic re-fuelling over the day, without employing any humans in the re-fuelling process.

    Scotts were selected as Caterpillar's business partner in the 'electric mining truck race' because of Scott's dual experience in artificial vision systems and robotics applications.

    Caterpillar currently have around 5,000 full sized off road mining trucks in service around the world (Source Scotts 2022 AGM). Even if all of these went electric overnight, then I would estimate the total global demand for 'electric mine site bowsers' would be less than one sixth of that - say 800. And if the global conversion to electric took place over 20 years, then that would be 40 new 'electric bowser' installations per year. Even if half of existing mine operators chose not to convert (by continuing to use diesel or opting for hydrogen power), that would still be 20 new 'electric bowser' installations every year for 20 years. But this level of business would require 'proof of concept' co-operation with one or two key customers first. So I would be surprised to see more than one or two of these electric bowsers being made over the next two years. IOW this 'Caterpillar deal' will be more of a 'consumer of funds' than 'an earner' over FY2023 and FY2024. We also have to bear in mind this is a 'substitute business'. For every one 'robotic electric bowser sale' by Scotts, that is one less potential 'robotic diesel bowser sale' by Scotts.

    Ironically one of the drivers in the growth of the mining market today is increasing worldwide demand for Lithium. And Lithium is one of the elements used in creating batteries for electric vehicles!

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    Default Scott Technology AGM 2022 Report

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    The meeting opened with around fifty shareholders attending. A strong share price rally from the JBS capital raising time in early 2016 (price then $1.39) to $3.70 today made for a positive vibe. As customary, Chairman Stuart McGlauchlan announced the recently inked contracts: $21m of new business. But one good month does not a boom year make. Perhaps more indicative of relative future prosperity is the next twelve months of foreign exchange purchases that represent ‘deals in the bag’. AR2017, section D1, shows these up 32% to $24.976m. Yet I believe the best encouragement for future business comes from those senior managers (almost all of them) not at the AGM - because they were away negotiating new deals. Alan Prince from the Christchurch Maces Road site did attend, and the banter was “he is allowed one day off.”

    Over ‘after meeting eats’, I discussed with senior management the segmentation of results into ‘Australasian Manufacturing’, ‘Americas Manufacturing’ and ‘Asia and Europe Manufacturing’. The current segmentation was vigorously debated at senior management level and may not be perfect. The puzzling Asia/Europe link can be explained by following the career path of appliance line manufacturing guru Ken Snowling. From heading Maces Road Christchurch, Ken oversaw the development of Scott Technology in China. Now he may be found bedding in Scott’s new European headquarters in Germany. The latest $17.5m of appliance line jobs will be manufactured in China. Europe and New Zealand. This clearly crosses market reporting segment boundaries. But Christchurch, China and Germany have always been associated with Appliance Line Production work. So the linking Asia and Europe is not such a surprise.

    The AGM presentation publicity photo (slide 14) shows a smiling Cathy Smart, Scott’s first Chinese born (?) head, leading a train of happy employees. Two children holding the Scott’s banner at the head of the train are extended family. Chairman McLauchlan was quick to point out that Scott’s support family values, not child labour!

    Further in the ‘post match discussion’, I asked about the absent director Andre Noguiera, who only attended two of the six board meetings held. Being head of JBS USA, Andre obviously has wide JBS group responsibilities. But the real benefit of having Andre on the board is the direct connection to JBS operations in the Americas. Having managed JBS Australia for a year on his way up in 2012, Andre is very aware of the detail of the day to day detail of running the Australasian division.

    The Dunedin Kaikouri valley base will be doubled in size with earthworks starting early in CY2018. Construction will be managed by now unretired pensioner Graham Batts, a former managing director of Scotts and most recently a retired non executive director. Jobs for the boys? It was Graham who planned the move to Kaikouri valley in earlier years (completed in 2008) and had the foresight to build the new HQ such that future expansion was possible. There is no-one better qualified to fulfill the ultimate expansion plan. Dunedin is where most of the meat industry robotics systems have been built.

    Eleven lamb boning systems have been delivered throughout Australasia. Ireland is most likely the next untouched lamb boning market. But internationally, lamb processing is a niche industry. Beef processing is of most interest to controlling shareholder JBS. JBS’s first plant processing beef sides is now working at JBS Dinmore in Queensland. Beef processing automation has a great future throughout the Americas and Europe, both inside and outside JBS. Pork and Chicken processing are areas where robotic expertise will be expanded. Indeed, a $3.5 million order from the United States for an X-Ray Pork Primal Cutting system was announced at the AGM. The key intellectual property (IP) that makes these developments superior is Scott’s DEXA (Dual Energy X-ray Absorptiometry) system. This not only allows a precision cut to be made in exactly the right place in each individual carcass. It can also simultaneously calculate meat fat and bone ratio – or lean meat yield.

    Scott’s has on the balance sheet $26m of ‘excess capital’ (amounting to 33.5cps). Thirty acquisition targets were considered over the year. But only a couple, with the ability to significantly enhance an existing business unit or seriously disrupt it are still under active consideration. The ‘institutional imperative’ suggests that if a business has money in the bank they will spend it. Thankfully Scott’s is showing a much more disciplined approach to utilising shareholder cash. More opportunities will come up. Yet after the meeting, it was made clear to me that returning excess capital to shareholders was very much a continuing option.

    Question time, and a shareholder asked about the absorption of two separately registered associated companies into the parent ‘Scott NZ Limited’ fold.

    1/ Scott Milktech Limited, developing automated cow milking technology, was 61% owned. Is the former 39% equity partner still involved? Answer: No. Scott’s have bought out the former development partner to assume 100% ownership.

    2/ HTS-110 Limited, the super-conductive magnet business, has made two high profile international installations ( one to a major US pharmaceutical company and another neutron and X-ray analysis tool into Germany – the sixth there). Yet revenue for the year was down nearly 50% (AR2017, p34). Should we shareholders be worried? Answer: No. This kind of variation in business is not inconsistent with the nature of HTS-110. It is part of the overall balanced business mix where not every Scott business unit does well every year.

    A second shareholder railed against the Fisher Funds sell down of Scott shares around ‘JBS capital reconstruction time’ in early 2016. The missed opportunity of the ensuing capital gain has proved a disastrous misjudgment for Fisher Funds stakeholders, he pointed out. This same shareholder praised the reintroduction of the dividend reinvestment plan . Particularly that JBS and other independent directors and senior managers showed confidence in the future direction of Scotts by reinvesting with it.

    Following the meeting, the workshop was opened up to all-comers prepared to wear safety glasses. My diversity observation of the day was that there was at least one woman in overalls in the workshop – good to see. There were two ‘active projects’ to inspect.

    1/ The “Bladestop” safety bandsaw gave we shareholders a working demonstration. It works via the operator wearing a wire belt around their waist. This completes an electrical circuit should any part of the operator’s body touch the blade. An air actuated cylinder can fire off the brake that halts the saw blade in 9 milliseconds. A back up camera system that senses the operator mandated blue gloves provides a back up switch. Fingers and tendons will be saved.

    2/ Development for a new manufacturing technique for LED lights. Essentially a high pressure plastic welding system, the job was to connect the soft printed circuit board that flashed the LED light to the plastic lens that cover it. The previous manufacturing process used an ultimately unwanted plastic sheet manufacturing by product which, if it didn’t come free, could contaminate the finished LED unit. Productivity gains plus less waste equals good business.

    Finally it was time to adjourn back to the food and drink spread, and Scott’s did not disappoint. There were crumbed fish bites , mini spring rolls, mini meatballs on the end of a toothpick ready for the tomato sauce dip and a varied array of gourmet club sandwiches.
    As for the drinks, what kind of wine would you like? Or beer? I don’t know if it was the time of day (4pm) or the audience. But the orange juice ran out first.
    It has been a long time between drinks for me at Scott's new expanded factory in Kaikouri Valley in Dunedin. It was five years ago that I was last there at an AGM! This was the first 'live' AGM meeting since 2019 due to Covid-19, although it was a hybrid meeting with a whole row of techno-kids with their electronics along the back row of the meeting room, simulcasting the meeting 'live on the net'. There was a single reporter/photographer from the ODT too, not something guaranteed at AGMs these days, where 'reporting on the AGM' often consists of rehashing the company's own press release.

    I think it is worth recording the 'departures' of a couple of Scott Technology stalwarts that I became aware of during the meeting, even though nothing was said officially.

    1/ "Greame James Marsh" former director of Scotts for 38 years (1969-2007) and chairman for 32 of those, has died aged 88 in June 2022. https://www.tributes.co.nz/ViewMyTribute.aspx?id=17483

    2/ "Ian Devereux" died aged 80 early in the first lock-down in April 2020. Ian was the founder of Rocklabs, the globally significant "mining resource adjunct" company acquired by Scott Technology in 2008, upon Ian's retirement from the business. I think it is fair to say that since acquisition, Rocklabs has been the star performing division of Scotts.
    https://notices.nzherald.co.nz/nz/ob...?pid=196083539

    Details of the AGM addresses, I could not find on the Scott Investor Relations website. However, they are here:
    https://www.nzx.com/announcements/402921

    I don't see any point in rehashing what was said when you can go to the link of the original. One clarification made was of the $190m of forward orders reported (the highest in the company's history), $50m was from controlling shareholder JBS, $60m fitted under the header of 'standard equipment' (which means higher profit margins), leaving $80m worth of 'other business'.

    During question time.

    1/ A shareholder named "David Marsh", who looked like a younger edition of whom I later determined to be his father Graeme Marsh, asked for some more details on the Caterpillar deal. I have summarised CEO JKs answer to this, along with some thoughts of my own, in post 1022.

    2/ A shareholder, who later identified herself as the late Ian Devereux's sister, said she was pleased to see two women at the top table and that she would be returning next year to press for more gender equality on the board. Gender equality on the day was boosted by the three male JBS appointees only being represented via video link, as was Australian based director Derek Charge. And the fact that one top desk person, company no.3, director of marketing and people, Casey Jenkins, wasn't actually a board member.

    Nevertheless Scott Technology, in partnership with the University of Canterbury, did launch a "Women in Engineering Scholarship", showing that their push for more women to be involved in the company was not just lip service.

    3/ A shareholder asked what was the underlying 'market force' in companies ordering new packaging solutions from Scott's Alvey division in Europe. The answer: A trend to much larger 'mega warehouses', with more and a greater variety of goods being shipped through one site. JK let slip that Pfizer in Europe was one of their customers.

    4/ A shareholder asked about material cost over-runs and how this might affect the profitability of these larger installations. JK said that in Europe they were now including a 'steel index clause' that allowed variability in the contract price, depending on where the global steel price was at the time of project construction and delivery.

    After the meeting we had a brief tour of the expanded workshop. I had a chat to Andrew Arnold, head of meat processing that lead the tour. He was very satisfied with progress being made on the automated beef boning room. The workshop floor employees had gone home by this point. But we saw a couple of robots being evaluated for beef boning in what looked like a small R&D section of the workshop. There was also a very large piece of pork boning equipment being lined up ready to ship.

    After the meeting there was the usual 'superior spread' of small eats and drinks. But the turnout of shareholders to indulge was only around half that of previous pre-Covid years. I reckon the workers on the floor would have enjoyed a pretty impressive array of 'leftover lunch' the next day.

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    Default SKL vs SCT 'Head to Head' (FY2022 perspective)

    Quote Originally Posted by Snoopy View Post
    We Skellerup shareholders have certainly had a good year. But 'good' is a word that must always have context. I find it useful to have a 'measuring stick'. Scott Technology is such a stick. Different in that it sells complete packages and not components. But the same in that both companies rely on Intellectual Property and trusted staff that can turn that knowledge into profits.

    Skellerup Scott Technology
    Operational Sector Manufacturing Manufacturing
    Total Employees 813 622
    Manufacturing Hubs NZ, Australia, Europe, North America, Asia NZ, Australia, Europe, North America, Asia
    Share Price 27-11-2021 $6.06 $3.37
    Market Capitalisation 27-11-2021 $1,183m $267m
    Capitalised Dividend Valuation per share (2017.5 to 2021.5) $2.25 $1.27
    Declared earnings (FY2021) $40.175m $9.527m
    Normalised earnings (FY2021) $40.243m $11.146m
    Normalised eps (FY2021) 20.5c 14.2c
    Normalised eps growth over 5 year period (FY2016 to FY2021) +72.3% +18.3%
    Historical PE (FY2021) 29.5 23.7
    dps (paid during FY2021) 7c+6.5c 0c+2c
    Earnings Payout Ratio (excluding DRP) 68% 14%
    Gross dps (paid during FY2019) 8.96c+7.76c 0c+2c
    Historical Gross Dividend Yield (using Share Price 27-11-2021) 2.76% 0.59%
    Shareholder Equity (based on equity at EOFY2021) $196.149m $98.195m
    ROE (based on equity at EOFY2021) 20.5% 11.4%
    Sales (FY2021) $279.615m $216.234m
    Net Profit Margin (FY2021) 14.4% 5.2%
    Total Bank Debt (last balance date EOFY2021) $24.409m $10.920m
    MDRT (Based on bank debt at balance date EOFY2021) 0.61 years 1.0 years

    A 72.3% growth rate at SKL over a five year period equates to an averaged annual growth rate of:

    1.723^0.2 = 1.115, or 11.5% per year.

    Perform the same exercise on SCT and you get

    1.183^0.2 = 1.034, or 3.42% per year.

    This goes some way to explaining why SKL is sitting on a PE of 29.5 verses 23.7 for Scotts.

    Some more observations:

    a/ If you compare my quoted reference exercise from the FY2019 perspective, both companies have reduced their bank debt to something that is almost insignificant.
    b/ ROE at SKL remains about double that at SCT, although both have improved.
    c/ SKL coped with the initial Covid-19 hit better than SCT, because SKL mainly supplied essential components whereas SCT 'capital projects' were deferred. But SCT took the opportunity to 'right size' the business, losing around 200 staff compared to the FY2019 pcp.
    d/ Net profit margin at SKL remains around triple that of SCT (c.f. pcp), although both have improved.

    Another comparison of note is to see by how much the market price exceeds the 'capitalised dividend valuation' price. This difference is one measure of the 'growth premium' accorded to each company by the market.

    SKL: Growth Premium = $6.06 - $2.25 = $3.81 => Growth Premium is 63% of share price
    SCT: Growth Premium = $3.37- $1.27 = $2.10 => Growth Premium is 62% of share price

    Depending on how you see the outlook for both companies, you might interpret these figures as showing both companies being equally overvalued ;-P

    The one difference that does not show in these figures is the effect of the 'change of direction' for Scotts, under their new CEO. This is steering the company towards more standardised products, away from one off builds. It will take a couple of years for this change to flow through to margins, bar no more shock Covid-19 interruptions (gulp!)

    Concluding the Comparison

    Both companies are conservatively financed, which is always good in a world where business opportunities are uncertain. Scott's cut their dividend payout drastically to achieve this, but Skellerup did not have to. I see Skellerup as the more resilient earner. The growth story at Skellerup is around incremental improvement and bolt on acquisitions. Whereas at Scotts, growth is more around 'executing the Scott 2025 vision plan' (more repeat sales of modularised products). I see the Skellerup path as more certain (they have a great knack of retaining customers as development partners), whereas Scotts are being more affected by macro-economic events. But I think if Scott's can co-ordinate the growth in their diverse international 'centres of excellence', then it is Scott's that have the most growth potential over the next two to three years. Looking beyond that time frame though, it is hard to imagine that Skellerup will be bettered on the long term growth path. If Skellerup are overvalued, there is a case to be made that they are not significantly more overvalued than Scott's are. The bonus for Scott shareholders is that they are always on the verge of cashing in a figurative 'mega lottery ticket'. If Scott's automated beef boning room project can be nailed, then there are a good decade of highly profitable installation projects lined up in Australia and the USA to follow up. So far, the 'mega lottery ticket application' (of which the automated beef boning room is simply the current one) has not kicked in for Scott shareholders. But we always live in hope! Being a 'glass half full' person, I am calling Scotts as the better value investment on the market today. Yet as a long term holder, I would feel more comfortable with Skellerup in my portfolio. Yes the price is dear, for both. But good things tend not to come cheap!

    discl: hold SCT and SKL
    Time to bring a measuring stick to Scotts via my annual 'battle of the manufacturers' with Skellerup. Scotts is different in that it sells complete package solutions and not components. But it is the same in that both companies have a similar geographic market spread and rely on Intellectual Property and trusted staff that can turn that knowledge into profits.

    Skellerup (SKL) Scott Technology (SCT)
    Operational Sector Manufacturing Manufacturing
    Total Employees 869 633
    Manufacturing Hubs NZ, Australia, Europe, North America, Asia NZ, Australia, Europe, North America, Asia
    Share Price 29-11-2022 $5.45 $2.65
    Market Capitalisation 27-11-2022 $1,064m $212m
    Capitalised Dividend Valuation per share (2018.5 to 2022.5) $2.57 $1.10
    Declared earnings (FY2022) $47.813m $12.657m
    Normalised earnings (FY2022) $47.205m $13.510m
    Normalised eps (FY2022) 24.1c 16.9c
    Normalised eps growth over 5 year period (FY2017 to FY2022) +136% +40.8%
    Historical PE (FY2022) 22.3 16.6
    dps (paid during FY2022) 10.5c+7.5c 4c+4c
    Earnings Payout Ratio (excluding DRP) 75% 47%
    Gross dps (paid during FY2022) 12.54c+8.96c 4c+4c
    Historical Gross Dividend Yield (using Share Price 29-11-2022) 3.94% 3.02%
    Shareholder Equity (based on equity at EOFY2022) $211.208m $100.406m
    ROE (based on equity at EOFY2022) 22.4% 13.5%
    Sales (FY2022) $316.829m $221.757m
    Net Profit Margin (FY2022) 14.9% 6.1%
    Total Bank Debt (last balance date EOFY2022) $40.000m $11.970m
    MDRT (Based on bank debt at balance date EOFY2022) 0.84 years 0.94 years

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    A 136% growth rate at SKL over a five year period equates to an averaged annual growth rate of:

    2.36^0.2 = 1.187 or 18.7% per year.

    Perform the same exercise on SCT and you get

    1.408^0.2 = 1.0708, or 7.08% per year.

    This goes some way to explaining why SKL is sitting on an historical PE of 22.3 verses 16.6 for Scotts.

    Some more observations:

    a/ The SKL share price has declined by 10% between study periods (refer quoted post), whereas over the same time the SCT share has price declined by 21%.
    b/ If you compare my quoted reference exercise from the FY2021 perspective, both companies continue to hold their company debt at low levels.
    c/ ROE at SKL remains about double that at SCT, although while both improved the ROE at SCT improved a little faster.
    d/ From a staffing perspective both SKL and SCT are on a 'growth trajectory'. But Scott's had a more modest growth rate, because the growth period included the closure of the US based Robotworx business. By contrast, 'investment rival' Skellerup bought a whole new bolt on business unit, Talbot Plastics with 18 employees, to add to their organic growth during the year.
    e/ Net profit margin at SKL is now around 2.5 times that of SCT (c.f. 3 times over the pcp). The relative improvement at Scotts is because of SCT selling more standardized higher margin products. Nevertheless margins at both companies have improved.

    Neither company makes a good yield play investment, now that interest rates are well and truly on the rise.
    But it is interesting to see by how much the market prices of the shares exceeds the 'capitalised dividend valuation' (a proxy for dividend paying ability) price. This difference is one way of measuring any 'growth premium' the market attaches to each share.

    SKL: Growth Premium = $5.45 - $2.57 = $2.88 => Growth Premium is 53% of share price
    SCT: Growth Premium = $2.65 - $1.10 = $1.55 => Growth Premium is 58% of share price

    The growth premium for both has decreased as the dividend payment for each share has increased. This 'growth premium' measure is Mr Market's one year snapshot of growth potential. Given Scotts are expecting some big projects, deferred by material shortages, to come to fruition over FY2023, then this measure is probably a fair reflection of the 'current guru opinion growth prospects' of each company. I would agree and expect SCT to grow profits faster than SKL over FY2023.

    Concluding the Comparison

    The growth story at Skellerup is around incremental improvement and bolt on acquisitions. Acquiring Talbot Advanced Technologies of Christchurch NZ on 31-07-2021 meant SKL increased their annualised after tax earnings for FY2022 by: $1.126m x 12/11 x 0.72 = $0.884m. Yet total annualised profit increased, between FY2022 and FY2023, by: [$47.205m+(1/12 x $0.884m)-$40.243m] = $7.036m. This shows by far the majority (87%) of SKL's NPAT growth was organic: ($7.036-$0.884)/$7.036m= 87%. This organic growth over the last two years in particular has come from:

    a/ Better utilisation of existing factory resources, indirectly fuelled by strong commodity prices in dairy and oil.
    b/ Site consolidation and the use of more energy efficient technology in both manufacturing and distribution.

    However, I would argue that riding macro trends in commodities cannot continue indefinitely. Furthermore the 'easy pickings' in internal company costs are likely already in the bank. I can see growth for SKL continuing, but not at the stellar rate of the last couple of years.

    Meanwhile at Scotts, growth is more around 'executing the Scott 2025 vision plan' (more repeat sales of modularised products), which is still very much a 'work in progress'. Successes are well trumpeted with the automated lamb processing room. Even better, work on the automatic beef boning room project, - potentially a much larger market- is progressing well. While full automation of the beef boning room is 'not yet there', the Bladestop band-saw product has been very successful as an 'interim step sale' to potential beef industry customers.

    Offsetting this is the 'shuffling under the carpet' of robot wheeler dealer 'Robotworx', once the front line of SCT's USA expansion plans. Meanwhile the driver-less factory transport solution acquisition 'Transbotics' looks not to be living up to expectations on the revenue front. But rather than being a veiled criticism of Scott's management, I see my observations here as being a reflection of investment in technology generally: For every big winner a technology company creates, the path to success in one area will be strewn with many more losers that ultimately don't make the business case. I have confidence in CEO John Kippenberger's plan to co-ordinate the growth in their diverse international 'centres of excellence', and I think it is Scott's that has the more growth potential over the next two to three years.

    The bonus for Scott shareholders is that they are always on the verge of cashing in a figurative 'mega lottery ticket'.
    The latest deal with US heavy vehicle giant Caterpillar, to develop stationary automated robotic 'filling stations' to power giant electric earth moving equipment at mining sites globally is the latest example of this. Whether any real profits will ever come from this project is not certain (hydrogen fuelled electric power must be a real challenge to battery fuelled electric power for heavy vehicles in the future). But at today's SCT share price, shareholders are effectively getting a 'free option' on heavy vehicle battery refuelling technology. If it doesn't work out, it won't be a disaster for existing SCT shareholders.

    Both companies are conservatively financed, which is always good in a world where business opportunities are uncertain. I see Skellerup as the more resilient earner, which is now fully (over?) priced as a result. But at current share prices I see Scotts as the better growth prospect. I will be looking to accumulate more SCT shares on any significant share price weakness, and unload some of my SKL shares into any significant share price strength.

    SNOOPY

    discl: hold SCT and SKL
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    Default The January 2023 SCT Investment Case

    Reasonable volume available at $2.50 over the last few days (not always the case with SCT), so I am putting up the current investment case.

    Skellerup (SKL) Scott Technology (SCT)
    Operational Sector Manufacturing Manufacturing
    Share Price 29-11-2022 $5.45 $2.65
    Capitalised Dividend Valuation per share (2018.5 to 2022.5) $2.57 $1.10
    Normalised eps (FY2022) 24.1c 16.9c
    Historical PE (FY2022) 22.3 16.6
    dps (paid during FY2022) 10.5c+7.5c 4c+4c
    Earnings Payout Ratio (excluding DRP) 75% 47%
    Gross dps (paid during FY2022) 12.54c+8.96c 4c+4c
    Historical Gross Dividend Yield (using Share Price 29-11-2022) 3.94% 3.02%
    With the share price at $2.50, we are now trading at a gross dividend yield of: 8/250 = 3.20%. But this is based on just a 47% payout ratio, which means the dividend is well covered and may be poised to grow. And the potential is there for things to improve further once some NZ imputation credits are restored (even if the dividend remains steady).

    The historical PE ratio is now down to: (250/265) x 16.6 = 15.7

    That is the lowest PE ratio this company has traded on for seven years (referred against my 30th September reference date), which is noteworthy in itself. But there is another reason buying shares on the market today at $2.50 looks enticing. The growth path going forwards looks better and more focussed than it has been for the last seven years. So at $2.50, not only are you buying a share, or the equivalent of a baked bean can, 'on sale'. You are buying the equivalent of a baked bean can on sale with '+x% bonus content' added to it as well.

    it is interesting to see by how much the market prices of the shares exceeds the 'capitalised dividend valuation' (a proxy for dividend paying ability) price. This difference is one way of measuring any 'growth premium' the market attaches to each share.

    SKL: Growth Premium = $5.45 - $2.57 = $2.88 => Growth Premium is 53% of share price
    SCT: Growth Premium = $2.65 - $1.10 = $1.55 => Growth Premium is 58% of share price
    Update:
    SCT: Growth Premium = $2.50 - $1.10 = $1.40 => Growth Premium is 56% of share price

    So the price you are paying for Scott's growth is falling.

    The bonus for Scott shareholders is that they are always on the verge of cashing in a figurative 'mega lottery ticket'.
    The latest deal with US heavy vehicle giant Caterpillar, to develop stationary automated robotic 'filling stations' to power giant electric earth moving equipment at mining sites globally is the latest example of this. Whether any real profits will ever come from this project is not certain (hydrogen fuelled electric power must be a real challenge to battery fuelled electric power for heavy vehicles in the future). But at today's SCT share price, shareholders are effectively getting a 'free option' on heavy vehicle battery refuelling technology. If it doesn't work out, it won't be a disaster for existing SCT shareholders.
    The share price has weakened off about 10% since the above announcement. None of the above numbers include the Caterpillar deal. So this is the 'free lottery ticket' part of a Scott Technology investment for those buying in today. It may not come off. But hey, you didn't pay any money for the ticket in the first place did you?

    Is there a good reason for the share price to have fallen around 20% since March 31st 2022? The main Scott European factory is located in the Czech republic, which is located next to a country that has been a bit in the news recently: Ukraine. That fact may have spooked some investors. But Scott's are managing the situation with great care and production does not seem to be under threat. It is little hiccups such as this, perceived or real, that give we value investors the opportunity to buy at the discounted share prices that we all seek.

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    Dear Scott .. how could overpayment to this tune have been going on ?

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/simply...AK7XJ7GTC6DRA/


    ‘Simply not sustainable’: Man who sought $500,000 instead ordered to pay ex-employer more than $200,000


    claimed he performed the three jobs concurrently working 120 hours per week, which was not the case. He did not disclose the split salary arrangements or that he had been claiming tax credits in New Zealand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nztx View Post
    Dear Scott .. how could over-payment to this tune have been going on ?

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/simply...AK7XJ7GTC6DRA/

    ‘Simply not sustainable’: Man who sought $500,000 instead ordered to pay ex-employer more than $200,000
    Ah yes Ken Snowling.

    Started out as an apprentice tool maker and rose through he ranks to become the head man in Appliance Line Manufacturing design based in Christchurch. (all of the Appliance line manufacturing was done in Christchurch back in the day). Later became a sales and marketing guru as well. Was sent over to China to sort out the alternative Appliance Line Production manufacturing facility over there. Later he moved to Europe (this was all before the big Alvey acquisition) to build up the servicing side of the Appliance Line business 'on the Continent'. Convinced management that 'Europe' and 'China' were in effect 'just one big overseas based manufacturing arm' and got appointed head of both.

    (Aside: I often wondered how he managed to be the combined head of business of both continents. Now we know he was paid a salary in both places and worked 120 per week to cover off both jobs, plus pocketing a salary in NZ which covered the costs of reporting to the 'mothership.' Why work full time in two jobs when you can work full time in three ;-P. But I digress....)

    Acquired a German business with some very clever toolmakers, who were well paid for their skill. Gradually outsourced work to the lower cost Czech republic, until the German toolmaker 'teachers' became disposable. Management advised him to sack all the high paid Germans which he did, and closed down that operation, He was then invited back to New Zealand where he was sacked himself, after doing the dirty work. That all ties in with how corporates work these days.

    SCT share price up 3.7% today on the release of this news (although the news release did not come through the stock exchange). I guess those 'on the inside' knew this court case was going on, and knew they had a good case against Snowling. That is why they decided it was 'not material' to keep shareholders informed. Actually a $500k claim, if successful, would have been around 3% of NPAT over FY2022. And had it been successful, such a claim may have opened the drawbridge for other internationally placed executives to try the same trick.

    Poor old Ken, but I won't be feeling too sorry for him. He did a good job at Scotts, and was well remunerated for his services. No doubt he is now enjoying his retirement on the three pensions he is earning from New Zealand, Germany and China as we speak......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoopy View Post
    Reasonable volume available at $2.50 over the last few days (not always the case with SCT), so I am putting up the current investment case.



    With the share price at $2.50, we are now trading at a gross dividend yield of: 8/250 = 3.20%. But this is based on just a 47% payout ratio, which means the dividend is well covered and may be poised to grow. And the potential is there for things to improve further once some NZ imputation credits are restored (even if the dividend remains steady).

    The historical PE ratio is now down to: (250/265) x 16.6 = 15.7

    That is the lowest PE ratio this company has traded on for seven years (referred against my 30th September reference date), which is noteworthy in itself. But there is another reason buying shares on the market today at $2.50 looks enticing. The growth path going forwards looks better and more focussed than it has been for the last seven years. So at $2.50, not only are you buying a share, or the equivalent of a baked bean can, 'on sale'. You are buying the equivalent of a baked bean can on sale with '+x% bonus content' added to it as well.



    Update:
    SCT: Growth Premium = $2.50 - $1.10 = $1.40 => Growth Premium is 56% of share price

    So the price you are paying for Scott's growth is falling.



    The share price has weakened off about 10% since the above announcement. None of the above numbers include the Caterpillar deal. So this is the 'free lottery ticket' part of a Scott Technology investment for those buying in today. It may not come off. But hey, you didn't pay any money for the ticket in the first place did you?

    Is there a good reason for the share price to have fallen around 20% since March 31st 2022? The main Scott European factory is located in the Czech republic, which is located next to a country that has been a bit in the news recently: Ukraine. That fact may have spooked some investors. But Scott's are managing the situation with great care and production does not seem to be under threat. It is little hiccups such as this, perceived or real, that give we value investors the opportunity to buy at the discounted share prices that we all seek.

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    Your commment could've spark some interest. SCT in the top 5 gains today. Dont see that too often

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    Quote Originally Posted by na2m1 View Post
    Your comment could've sparked some interest. SCT in the top 5 gains today. Don't see that too often
    Nice to get this call right. Closed on the high at $2.75, but $3.02 is the next buy point on offer. Pitiful volume today though, with only 1,762 shares traded (although someone hoovered up a few thousand at $2.55 yesterday). But even $2.75 is a nice 10% gain on where I bought my shares two days prior.

    Of course it is just possible the referenced press release of today (below) had something to do with the share price rise as well:

    https://www.nzx.com/announcements/405501

    To be frank, I do find these future order book summaries periodically referred to by Scotts a bit strange. I imagine an analogous situation of Scott's being a bookseller while proprietor John Kippenberger sends out a quarterly sales up date:

    "So and so buyers came into the shop. They ordered this book from the meat section. Someone else came in and ordered a logistics book. We had good interest from China on a repeat run of books."

    I sit back reading John's report thinking, well that all sounds pretty good. But this year is a new year. What I really want to know is how the number of books you sold this year stacks up with last year. And what about the profit margins this year verses last year? Full order books are fine, but what proportion of these orders will end up going through the Scott's accounts this year and what amount in subsequent years? Are we going to make more money in the first half this year than we did last year? After pondering these questions, I realise that John's 'book sales report' has actually told me very little of what I really want to know. I will drop the book seller analogy now and show you what I mean:

    "A significant partnership with global retail giant Costco Wholesale. An initial order of two machines has been secured, with a phase two order for an additional eight machines anticipated in the coming month."

    We know from AR2022 p19 that each chicken trussing machine is a $1.7m project. So two of these on the books equates to revenue of $3.4m.. Last year total company revenue was $222m. So $3.4m on $222m represents about 1.5% of revenue, which possibly matches the first batch of trussing machines sold last year. In the grand scheme of things, this isn't a significant announcement. Over what time-frame will the eight other anticipated orders be delivered?

    "Scott’s Transbotics arm has confirmed Automated Guided Vehicle (AGV) contracts with major global businesses, Microsoft, Novelis (metal recycling) , and Gulfstream (business jet aircraft). This is an exciting development for the materials handling arm of the business with Scott committed to nurturing and growing these new partnerships in the future."

    Always good to name drop some big corporate customers I suppose. But what scale of projects are these? I deduced last year that Transbotics, manufacturer of driver less intelligent factory trollies made very little money, if any. So are these deals enough to pull Transbotics out of the red? Since we don't know the size and scale of these new projects, I don't know.

    Scott's signed a new washer cabinet deal in China. In FY2022 China had few major projects and more or less just broke even. I reckon this deal should add around $1.5m to the bottom line (for FY2023?). But like all projects in this class, it is a oncer. Another project will need to be found in FY2024 to replace it.

    There was a good announcement for Alvey, supplying some kind of robotic packing plant to James Hardie in Australia. But what about the European packaging projects that are right on Alvey's doorstep? No mention is made of any progress on those.

    I hope you get the gist of what I am trying to communicate here. I could go on, but I am sure readers have got my point. This announcement by Scott's today is a 'feel good' announcement with no quantifiable incremental increase in profit able to be determined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoopy View Post
    Nice to get this call right. Closed on the high at $2.75, but $3.02 is the next buy point on offer. Pitiful volume today though, with only 1,762 shares traded (although someone hoovered up a few thousand at $2.55 yesterday). But even $2.75 is a nice 10% gain on where I bought my shares two days prior.
    Wow! A day of 'pitiful volume' has been followed by one of the largest trading days in history. Price is steady at $2.75 though. Most of the trading in two 'off market' trades (320,000). There are only a handful of shareholders who have that many shares to sell. Chairman Stuart, who will be completing his 15th year as company chair this year, and who sold down a few shares last year, 'selling down' as he contemplates retirement (and that new deck)? Oakwood securities selling down as that shareholding gets split up on the death of long time Scott stalwart Graeme Marsh? An unsupportive Field and Palmer reducing the holding of the old Ian Urquhart estate? It will be fascinating to see who has blinked, and who has come on board!

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