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    Vodafone got a reason to get out of their sponsorship of the Warriors ....

    .....martin could waste more of our money SKY WARRIORS sounds pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by percy View Post
    Well at half time one team has deserved to get 19 points while the other team on 12 points only deserves 3 points.

    Had the poor team led at half time I would have turned it off.
    Probably score another 19 in 2nd half and win 38-21

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Probably score another 19 in 2nd half and win 38-21
    That's it.
    Back to The order of things by Graham Hurley.

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    For those wondering if the ComCom might block the take over, have a read of this report from 2016:

    https://comcom.govt.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/0028/76852/Plum-report-for-2degrees-and-TVNZ-on-Vodafone-Sky-merger-August-2016.pdf


    What you'll find is that the Pay TV market has changed significantly in the last 4 years. The predictions made in the report did not eventuate. If anything, it shows how incompetent the consultancy firm was in preparing this paid report. The argument to block a merger between Sky and Vodafone is no longer valid. However, the benefit of a merger between Sky and Vodafone has not changed.

    A quote from the report above about the benefits of a merger:


    • "With access to Sky’s premium content on preferred terms, Vodafone would be able to increase its share of the retail mobile market, currently 50% by revenues, as the take up of its 4G data services increases"


    • "Vodafone would also be able to cross sell into the Sky customer base in a way not available to its two mobile rivals"


    Notice the phrase "4G" is used. Hmm, what comes after the number 4 I wonder? Yes, it's obvious Vodafone has made a huge investment into 5G and is looking at ways to leverage this over the long term. A take over of Sky would be a great way to increase their customer base and move them to higher margin products, such as the upcoming 5G roll out. An example of this would be giving customers a free rugby subscription in exchange for subscribing to 5G.

    It's also obvious that Vodafone could cross sell and bundle Sky's existing products and services into Vodafone TV. For example, existing Vodafone TV customers could enjoy free television channels and access to RugbyPass in exchange for having their broadband with Vodafone.

    What's stopping other competitors from doing the same? Nothing. Spark has the cricket rights, and many other sporting rights in New Zealand. It's a level playing field.

    Consumer will benefit from more local horizontal integrations of New Zealand companies. The real threat is from overseas, from the likes of Netfix and Disney. These companies are the ones more likely to abuse their market position and raise prices over the long term. Worst yet, all the profits go overseas and they employ no local workers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogg View Post
    For those wondering if the ComCom might block the take over, have a read of this report from 2016:

    https://comcom.govt.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/0028/76852/Plum-report-for-2degrees-and-TVNZ-on-Vodafone-Sky-merger-August-2016.pdf


    What you'll find is that the Pay TV market has changed significantly in the last 4 years. The predictions made in the report did not eventuate. If anything, it shows how incompetent the consultancy firm was in preparing this paid report. The argument to block a merger between Sky and Vodafone is no longer valid. However, the benefit of a merger between Sky and Vodafone has not changed.

    A quote from the report above about the benefits of a merger:


    • "With access to Sky’s premium content on preferred terms, Vodafone would be able to increase its share of the retail mobile market, currently 50% by revenues, as the take up of its 4G data services increases"


    • "Vodafone would also be able to cross sell into the Sky customer base in a way not available to its two mobile rivals"


    Notice the phrase "4G" is used. Hmm, what comes after the number 4 I wonder? Yes, it's obvious Vodafone has made a huge investment into 5G and is looking at ways to leverage this over the long term. A take over of Sky would be a great way to increase their customer base and move them to higher margin products, such as the upcoming 5G roll out. An example of this would be giving customers a free rugby subscription in exchange for subscribing to 5G.

    It's also obvious that Vodafone could cross sell and bundle Sky's existing products and services into Vodafone TV. For example, existing Vodafone TV customers could enjoy free television channels and access to RugbyPass in exchange for having their broadband with Vodafone.

    What's stopping other competitors from doing the same? Nothing. Spark has the cricket rights, and many other sporting rights in New Zealand. It's a level playing field.

    Consumer will benefit from more local horizontal integrations of New Zealand companies. The real threat is from overseas, from the likes of Netfix and Disney. These companies are the ones more likely to abuse their market position and raise prices over the long term. Worst yet, all the profits go overseas and they employ no local workers!
    Instead of Spark getting into a bidding war with Sky,it would probably be cheaper just to buy them!

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    I see old Derek had a whopping 4,000 shares before the CR. Now he owns a staggering 17,584 shares!

    http://nzx-prod-s7fsd7f98s.s3-websit...055/324956.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistaTea View Post
    I see old Derek had a whopping 4,000 shares before the CR. Now he owns a staggering 17,584 shares!

    http://nzx-prod-s7fsd7f98s.s3-websit...055/324956.pdf
    Must have had to max his credit card out.

    Interesting to see Martin Stewart also buying ~$85k worth.

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    Derek should resign as a matter of principle if he has that little faith in the company!
    Why should we pay someone directors fees, when the have so little skin in the game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getty View Post
    Derek should resign as a matter of principle if he has that little faith in the company!
    Why should we pay someone directors fees, when the have so little skin in the game?
    On the other hand he is not truely independent ...he has a vested interest (skin in the game)

    Poor Derek or rather poor SKY having Derek as a Director in the first place ....wasted space in the Board room I reckon.
    Last edited by winner69; 23-06-2020 at 10:19 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k14 View Post
    Must have had to max his credit card out.

    Interesting to see Martin Stewart also buying ~$85k worth.
    I too would buy my full allotment if I could buy shares at 12 cents that are currently trading at 16 cents. No brainer as far as I am concerned. Its like paying $80 to get a $100 bill. But yes, granted he did fill his boots and it shows he thinks there might be some promise there.

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