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    Quote Originally Posted by GR8DAY View Post
    We're in "take-over" territory now that's for sure!!
    Yup this will either die or be taken over. I still believe it's too valuable to let die, especially since our beloved All Blacks are on Sky.

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    There is a strong correlation between Hotcopper and the share price. As soon as there was a cry for help on Hotcopper, asking for a "white knight' the share price capitulated. Likewise, when there was a comment saying 'takeover imminent' the share price rallied. Don't take hotcopper lightly, it will be at your own cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTM View Post
    I have removed several buy orders as I chickened out ahead of the sinking price.
    I now wonder whether its heading to the lockdown figure.....$82M....or maybe 20 or 30 % more.
    Jeeze....5-7 cents by my calcs. Is that crazy ? Probably...I'll go finish the lawns.
    Maybe this doesn't allow for the cash raise ?
    I do feel as tho I might be going to be characterised in the same way as Winner69 here.
    Yep rtm ..we both jackasses

    But Ogg says Enterprise Value today is about $234m (market cap $223m plus net debt $11m)

    Mistatea keeps telling us market cap dropped to $82m in April ...add $160m net debt (as per SKT preso) gives EV of $242m

    So market valuing SKT on a EV basis much the same as prior to the cap raise ...an apples to apples basis too ....not surprising?

    Market obviously doesn’t think any takeover likely ...and also seems to think they will to struggle on ... (maybe to their eventual demise)

    Hope we not jackasses again rtm...but shareprice shouldn’t fall another 20% ....should it
    Last edited by winner69; 31-07-2020 at 02:34 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogg View Post
    Will the white knight in black come and save us?
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    Don’t think black cranes save things ....often deathly signs associated with black cranes
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Maybe we need an NZX price enquiry to settle the startled horses

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Yep rtm ..we both jackasses

    But Ogg says Enterprise Value today is about $234m (market cap $223m plus net debt $11m)

    Mistatea keeps telling us market cap dropped to $82m in April ...add $160m net debt (as per SKT preso) gives EV of $242m
    Thanks - that is what I was trying to work out. So market effectively saying SKY $10M more valuable having done the raise.

    In turn that means it hasn't really bounced like the rest of the market has, and could be due to?

    No orders just following out of interest
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    way over valued at 223 m market cap. expecting it to drift to penny dreadful status soon
    one step ahead of the herd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Entrep View Post
    Thanks - that is what I was trying to work out. So market effectively saying SKY $10M more valuable having done the raise.

    In turn that means it hasn't really bounced like the rest of the market has, and could be due to?

    No orders just following out of interest
    Take into account:

    1) That $87m valuation was in March. At the depths of the stock market plunge.
    2) Having no debt is better than having debt from an EV assessment.
    3) The company has likely made $50m+ since those numbers were released.

    Market price today is effectively at all time low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    way over valued at 223 m market cap. expecting it to drift to penny dreadful status soon
    The trend is absolutely HORRENDOUS, but

    - entrenched in about 500K kiwi homes
    - very strong revenue and cashflow still
    - OSB is worth something (can't remember what they paid for) and nothing like it in NZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Entrep View Post
    The trend is absolutely HORRENDOUS, but

    - entrenched in about 500K kiwi homes
    - very strong revenue and cashflow still
    - OSB is worth something (can't remember what they paid for) and nothing like it in NZ
    The bull case has been spammed all over this thread.

    The bear case is that Sky is obsolete.

    For every seller there is a buyer.

    Massive bets have taken place over the last few months.

    Outcome is not clear.

    Hence we're at maximum uncertainty.

    "Place your bets..."

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