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    Quote Originally Posted by RTM View Post
    Infratil announce buy back...there goes a chunk of their cash.
    20,000,000 shares
    2.77% of their stock
    Roughly $100,000,000
    3.45mil saved on dividends.
    Suppose it makes sense.
    https://www.nzx.com/announcements/358383
    Insurance, when the Sky takeover announcement hits.

    "O No, they're buying Sky, I'm gonna sell my IFT now"

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistaTea View Post
    Plan A for both companies was the merger. That failed.

    Rather than appeal the decision they decided to do the current commercial relationship - it was the next best thing.

    There is a big difference here - last time Vodafone did not have a comprehensive commercial arrangement for sky’s content. Now that they do, going through the whole ‘let’s attempt to merge...again...” may hold much less appeal.

    The benefit may not stack up against the costs.

    I am not saying that a takeover is not possible - I make no predictions in this space.

    But I think it is also a bit ogg (I mean odd) to keep banging on like it is a ‘certainty’ when there is no real evidence to support that claim.
    Who wants a lame outdated commercial arrangement.

    Besides, you always get cuckold, just like when your partner decides to move into your own space and goes into broadband and mobile services.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogg View Post
    Who needs a takeover when we're a telecommunication company now, right?
    Amen to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistaTea View Post
    I listened to the IFT Q&A...certainly nothing was said that indicated/implied they are sniffing around IFT.

    In fact, Marko pointed out that Spark and Vodafone are following broadly similar strategies...except for marginal value add activities like entertainment content and live sport.

    It certainly didn't sound like Marko was keen to get into the content business directly (it sounded to me like he is happy to keep the current commercial relationship with Sky for Vodafone TV, but that is as far as it goes).
    They'll do offers to throw in Disney+, then the next promo will be free HBO. Like you say they're already offering Sky. Sky is standing on their own two feet, at least up until Comcast make a move.
    Last edited by tqtq; 20-08-2020 at 07:39 PM. Reason: typos

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    https://apple.news/AfqXgj8XMSoejwGE2brlQ4A

    An analysts view of Comcast which own cable in the US and Sky Europe. My guess is he’d probably have a similar view of Sky NZ if he we’re to take a look.

    Morningstar analyst Michael Hodel offered Comcast praise last week.
    This year "is far from a normal year and seasonal swings have likely steadily diminished with the rise of online content options," he wrote in a report.
    But "the sequential improvement amid the worst of the pandemic and sports shutdown provides some evidence supporting our view that the industry isn’t headed for a customer death spiral, a key element of our fair-value estimates and moat ratings across much of the media sector, including … Comcast."

    Price to book (from memory):
    Comcast: 2.3
    Sky Tv NZ 0.6

    *similar but comcast have telco, NBCU and other media businesses so not entirely apples to apples

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    Gotta love these glassdoor reviews.

    https://www.glassdoor.co.nz/Reviews/...iews-E7568.htm

    https://www.glassdoor.co.nz/Reviews/...IM1178_IP2.htm



    Sky TV

    29 June 2020
    Pros

    Good place to work. Friendly atmosphere.
    Cons
    Management to know the vision of the company

    10 May 2020
    Pros

    Fun place to work, good co-workers, dynamic industry
    Cons
    Getting disrupted and restructuring to cope

    29 March 2020
    Pros

    Great people to work with
    Cons
    Blind and ignorant leadership lacking in diversity or skill to invoke change

    20 February 2020
    Pros

    Fun industry, good camaraderie, lots of exciting initiatives in play
    Cons
    Facing significant disruption so under pressure

    25 November 2019
    Pros

    flexible, big company, flexible, flexible, flexible
    Cons
    too many people work there, hard to push new change.



    Vodafone

    28 July 2020
    Pros
    Great employee benefits, diverse workplace
    Cons
    The company goes through frequent restructures

    20 July 2020
    Pros
    Great colleagues good work life
    Cons
    Bad job security and layoffs

    26 May 2020
    Pros
    Excellent people culture and working environment
    Cons
    Frequent restructuring that causes lack in confidence among staff.

    11 May 2020
    Pros
    Awesome place to work at
    Cons
    Uncertainities in telco sector nowadays

    16 April 2020
    Pros
    great environment, fun place to work at
    Cons
    management is quite stuck up

    30 March 2020
    Pros
    Great Employee benefits Big office get to meet some great people
    Cons
    Unrealistic expectations from the management. Company says they are "agile" but only on paper. Very old system and IT. No forward thinking or planning for the future. Lack of strategy

    23 March 2020
    Pros
    Big company, get to meet many people
    Cons
    management decisions are too poor.

    9 March 2020
    Pros
    Some of the people are passionate. Agile-ish
    Cons
    Legacy KPIs. Removing bonus since going private

    6 February 2020
    Pros
    People, people, people
    Cons
    Complexity of the legacy systems

    27 January 2020
    Pros
    Great leadership and people, good culture, agile and fun to work.
    Cons
    lots of movement in the organisational structure.

    10 November 2019
    Pros
    Great people; generous resources; inclusive.
    Cons
    Political; Slow; Averse to hearing feedback if negative.

    20 October 2019
    Pros
    Free phone and plan,
    Cons
    Too busy ticking boxes and moving on to the next big thing without delivering

    Working at Vodafone/Sky...


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    The key themes experienced by past employees of both companies:

    Layoffs/restructure/change/disruption

    Time for these two dinosaurs to mate and make a baby.

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertain...ectid=12358295

    LOL.

    Hmmmn, so a linear TV model is not completely outdated then? Netflix should be able to tailor the content to the user based on their viewing history which is different to Sky, but still an interesting development.

    Sometimes it is nice to turn the TV on and have a content curator just decide for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistaTea View Post
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertain...ectid=12358295

    LOL.

    Hmmmn, so a linear TV model is not completely outdated then? Netflix should be able to tailor the content to the user based on their viewing history which is different to Sky, but still an interesting development.

    Sometimes it is nice to turn the TV on and have a content curator just decide for you
    There are two other psychological things missing for it to work:

    1) Other people have to be watching the same content at the same time.
    2) There has to be a genuine feeling of not being in control.

    What Nextfix has done is just a shuffle button. Which in itself is just another choice to make as you have to decided weather to turn it on or not. You're in full control.

    People are more satisfied when their options are limited or non existent and there's a higher power making choices for them. They're also more satisfied when they see others doing the exact same. It's counter intuitive but true.

    The best outcome is having no choice 80% of the time, then giving someone a choice for the remaining 20%.

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