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09-11-2020, 11:26 AM
#6171
Originally Posted by mistaTea
No rain fade for me on my sweet Sky Sport NOW sub that I got an annual pass for - $299 at the time.
Just an awesome user experience and an entertaining rugby match.
I presume you mean the Hawkes Bay v Wellington game ?
Agree...wasn't it great.
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09-11-2020, 11:51 AM
#6172
SKY need to get rid of Justin Marshall from their rugby coverage
Must be costing them subscribers every time he opens his mouth
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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09-11-2020, 01:45 PM
#6173
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...76RYQVMRHUY2Y/
Sky entering broadband at the right time - usage forecast to spike to 1 gig per month for the average household.
Consumers will want faster speeds at better prices.
Hopefully using Feenix Communications as their partner proves to be a capital efficient way to enter the market. Entertainment and Sports bundles can be offered to existing satellite subs at very attractive bundle prices. And that will just be the beginning.
I don't want a satellite sub because I live in a new development area that only has fibre as an option - this suburb is made for streaming. But once Sky release their streaming-internet bundles, I will almost certainly switch over if the pricing makes sense.
A surprising thing about my area - there are a lot more satellite dishes on rooves than I would have predicted. When I go for walks, I like to look at the other properties, and as I do I try to see if there is a dish on the roof (making it highly likey they subscribe to Sky). As I say, this is a fibre-only area - so we are really set up for streaming. And even those who want traditional Sky channels could get it cheaper by streaming them via Vodafone TV.
On average, I reckon at least 1 in 4 houses have satellite dishes. I think that is incredible for an area like this, and shows just how 'sticky' traditional Sky TV offerings are with a lot of consumers.
The loyal, half a million strong satellite base has got to be one of the most undervalued assets in New Zealand.
Last edited by mistaTea; 09-11-2020 at 01:48 PM.
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09-11-2020, 03:07 PM
#6174
https://itbrief.co.nz/story/new-zeal...ruption-report
Article a few days old but just a reminder of how interesting things will/could be with Sky entering broadband/ and mobile.
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09-11-2020, 03:30 PM
#6175
Member
OK, i'll bite. The whole broadband market is extremely competitive at the moment but its about to get turned on its head in the rural areas of NZ by Starlink: https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoe...h=d8754941bb06 - NZ is in their sights and some believe they have ground stations planned here: https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesm...nk-new-zealand + https://www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/co...n_new_zealand/
The latency of Starlink is actually theoretically going to be less than Fibre due to the sheer number of satellites they're putting up there - but it looks like it is not going to be too expensive either: https://arstechnica.com/information-...-500-up-front/ - $500 setup, $99 USD / month. That is obviously steep for metro areas, but if you're in a hard to reach part of the country / world that is a steal.
I cannot see how Sky is going to make any money selling broadband honestly, even if they are reselling via Feenix as a virtual ISP. Margins are going to continue to get squeezed as a result of these new entrants and more consolidation will come to the NZ & global broadband market in the near future. Once again, I think its a case of too little to late for Sky here.
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09-11-2020, 03:35 PM
#6176
Member
Originally Posted by KiwiGekko
OK, i'll bite. The whole broadband market is extremely competitive at the moment but its about to get turned on its head in the rural areas of NZ by Starlink: https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoe...h=d8754941bb06 - NZ is in their sights and some believe they have ground stations planned here: https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesm...nk-new-zealand + https://www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/co...n_new_zealand/
The latency of Starlink is actually theoretically going to be less than Fibre due to the sheer number of satellites they're putting up there - but it looks like it is not going to be too expensive either: https://arstechnica.com/information-...-500-up-front/ - $500 setup, $99 USD / month. That is obviously steep for metro areas, but if you're in a hard to reach part of the country / world that is a steal.
I cannot see how Sky is going to make any money selling broadband honestly, even if they are reselling via Feenix as a virtual ISP. Margins are going to continue to get squeezed as a result of these new entrants and more consolidation will come to the NZ & global broadband market in the near future. Once again, I think its a case of too little to late for Sky here.
It's not just about broadband, its the packages that Sky can upsell to the already 900k customers. Broadband is just a small added bonus.
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09-11-2020, 03:36 PM
#6177
I thought we had already decided that it was not about them making money off the broadband piece but more about retaining existing customers. If it also allows them to win a few more by offering Sky great.
Last edited by Alpha; 09-11-2020 at 03:41 PM.
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09-11-2020, 04:10 PM
#6178
Originally Posted by Alpha
I thought we had already decided that it was not about them making money off the broadband piece but more about retaining existing customers. If it also allows them to win a few more by offering Sky great.
Yes, those who still lament the profitability of the broadband component completely miss the point.
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09-11-2020, 04:13 PM
#6179
Originally Posted by KiwiGekko
OK, i'll bite. The whole broadband market is extremely competitive at the moment but its about to get turned on its head in the rural areas of NZ by Starlink: https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoe...h=d8754941bb06 - NZ is in their sights and some believe they have ground stations planned here: https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesm...nk-new-zealand + https://www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/co...n_new_zealand/
The latency of Starlink is actually theoretically going to be less than Fibre due to the sheer number of satellites they're putting up there - but it looks like it is not going to be too expensive either: https://arstechnica.com/information-...-500-up-front/ - $500 setup, $99 USD / month. That is obviously steep for metro areas, but if you're in a hard to reach part of the country / world that is a steal.
I cannot see how Sky is going to make any money selling broadband honestly, even if they are reselling via Feenix as a virtual ISP. Margins are going to continue to get squeezed as a result of these new entrants and more consolidation will come to the NZ & global broadband market in the near future. Once again, I think its a case of too little to late for Sky here.
Investors still say that Chorus is worth over $4B. I would think that Chorus shares would be going down significantly if what you are saying (imminent mass exodus from fibre to internet via satellite) is a given.
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09-11-2020, 07:30 PM
#6180
Saw some articles describing the ‘Biden Bounce’ in a number of share markets, including our own.
Decided to take a peek at the Sky SP - and we are DOWN 1.34%.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA.
Christ I almost wet myself!
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