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09-04-2019, 05:48 PM
#4891
Originally Posted by winner69
Yes should increase EPS but often multiples contract after buybacks (esp those not funded by surplus cash) as the market sees them as more leveraged (riskier)
Wonder whether the market will see it differently when TRA announce an extension to the buy back.?
Seems to me posters who are TRA shareholders are very happy with the buy back.I know I am.
Last edited by percy; 09-04-2019 at 05:50 PM.
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09-04-2019, 06:23 PM
#4892
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Originally Posted by percy
Wonder whether the market will see it differently when TRA announce an extension to the buy back.?
Seems to me posters who are TRA shareholders are very happy with the buy back.I know I am.
Me too.
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09-04-2019, 06:58 PM
#4893
Originally Posted by winner69
Yes should increase EPS but often multiples contract after buybacks (esp those not funded by surplus cash) as the market sees them as more leveraged (riskier)
The other thing with buybacks is the amount they have to pay-out for dividends is significantly reduced.
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09-04-2019, 07:13 PM
#4894
Originally Posted by RTM
The other thing with buybacks is the amount they have to pay-out for dividends is significantly reduced.
NO NO RTM .....Percy (and me) wouldn’t like that to happen .....we want them to pay out the same dollars but give us all a little more ....like sharing out the dividend those who sold into the buy back would have got.
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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09-04-2019, 07:18 PM
#4895
So very true.
An interesting project for some one good with figures.
Turners appear to borrow at approx 4.5%.
Their gross dividend yield is 10%
Dividends are paid from NPAT,while the interest TRA pay on borrowings is deductible.
Their nett interest margin NIM is over 9%.
Playing around with the above figures it is easy to agree with you,,"the amount to pay out dividends is significantly reduced."
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09-04-2019, 07:19 PM
#4896
Originally Posted by winner69
NO NO RTM .....Percy (and me) wouldn’t like that to happen .....we want them to pay out the same dollars but give us all a little more ....like sharing out the dividend those who sold into the buy back would have got.
No no no we want a larger slice of the cake,which in turn will give us a larger slice of the profit,which will mean increased divies.!
Glad you are seeing the errors of you ways W69.
Last edited by percy; 09-04-2019 at 07:22 PM.
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09-04-2019, 07:31 PM
#4897
Originally Posted by percy
No no no we want a larger slice of the cake,which in turn will give us a larger slice of the profit,which will mean increased divies.!
Glad you are seeing the errors of you ways W69.
.....and the cake will get bigger and bigger eh
Sweet as
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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09-04-2019, 07:51 PM
#4898
Originally Posted by winner69
.....and the cake will get bigger and bigger eh
Sweet as
You are there.
Thinking like a business owner.
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10-04-2019, 11:34 AM
#4899
Well well well where are our chartist friends?.Asleep.?
MACD positive.
Share price up through, 30 day,60 day and 90 day moving averages.
Strong buying strength.
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10-04-2019, 11:44 AM
#4900
Originally Posted by percy
Well well well where are our chartist friends?.Asleep.?
MACD positive.
Share price up through, 30 day,60 day and 90 day moving averages.
Strong buying strength.
Hmm - reading your post I thought I missed something and looked at the chart:
+TRA.jpg
Not sure this looks like a confirmed uptrend to me (yet) ... but sure, it might turn into one at some stage.
I recon however we still will need to wait for the financials end of May (unless they announce something really positive earlier).
Anyway - happy for holders that the SP didn't further decline and even slightly improved ... though still quite content with my decision to move my funds to HGH at the time I did it;
Remind me - what was the price of the last heavily discounted capital rise? Long way to go to reach that again ...
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