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31-05-2018, 09:50 AM
#2251
Been in a downward trend for just over a year now..
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31-05-2018, 10:15 AM
#2252
Originally Posted by janner
Been in a downward trend for just over a year now..
Great sleuthing ;
However - what makes you think that this could not be the bend in the trend?
Last minimum was in March 2018 - since than higher highs (well, depending on how you measure them) and clearly higher lows.
MACD just turned "green" - indicating the start of a new uptrend.
Why do you think the share is still stuck in a downtrend?
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" (Niels Bohr)
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31-05-2018, 10:29 AM
#2253
Originally Posted by BlackPeter
Great sleuthing ;
However - what makes you think that this could not be the bend in the trend?
Last minimum was in March 2018 - since than higher highs (well, depending on how you measure them) and clearly higher lows.
MACD just turned "green" - indicating the start of a new uptrend.
Why do you think the share is still stuck in a downtrend?
Seem to be a big queue of sellers.
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31-05-2018, 10:33 AM
#2254
Originally Posted by janner
Been in a downward trend for just over a year now..
Hopefully the downtrend continues until September, before a huge rapid bigly rebound
Disclosure: small time shareholder, big time bond holder
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31-05-2018, 10:34 AM
#2255
Originally Posted by ratkin
Seem to be a big queue of sellers.
Big queue?
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I guess it depends on your definition of "big" and "queue".
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" (Niels Bohr)
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31-05-2018, 10:40 AM
#2256
Originally Posted by BlackPeter
Great sleuthing ;
However - what makes you think that this could not be the bend in the trend?
Last minimum was in March 2018 - since than higher highs (well, depending on how you measure them) and clearly higher lows.
MACD just turned "green" - indicating the start of a new uptrend.
Why do you think the share is still stuck in a downtrend?
Suppose punters seeing what they want to see
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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31-05-2018, 10:52 AM
#2257
Have to concede TA doesn't look especially encouraging right at the minute but as Percy reminds us from time to time share prices follow earnings...
My thinking behind buying in before TA confirmed a new trend is this stock is very cheap and sometimes you have to go with FA over TA and let TA follow after all there is a vast number of fully priced shares on the market and it is very difficult to find real value with growth in EPS thrown in for nothing. No growth PE with the current low interest rates, (amendment to Benjamin Graham's 8.5 PE for no growth based on 4% risk free 10 year rate) I reckon is 10 based on 10 year Govt stock under 3% presently. Turners are trading on ~ 10 times last years earnings therefore I maintain that effectively shareholders are getting the growth for free and a divvy yield of 8.2% gross...so we're being paid handsomely to be patient and get free growth...how good is that !
Last edited by Beagle; 31-05-2018 at 10:53 AM.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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31-05-2018, 10:58 AM
#2258
Originally Posted by Beagle
Have to concede TA doesn't look especially encouraging right at the minute but as Percy reminds us from time to time share prices follow earnings...
My thinking behind buying in before TA confirmed a new trend is this stock is very cheap and sometimes you have to go with FA over TA and let TA follow after all there is a vast number of fully priced shares on the market and it is very difficult to find real value with growth in EPS thrown in for nothing. No growth PE with the current low interest rates, (amendment to Benjamin Graham's 8.5 PE for no growth based on 4% risk free 10 year rate) I reckon is 10 based on 10 year Govt stock under 3% presently. Turners are trading on ~ 10 times last years earnings therefore I maintain that effectively shareholders are getting the growth for free and a divvy yield of 8.2% gross...so we're being paid handsomely to be patient and get free growth...how good is that !
Now that you are in the tent, the old dog has seen the light
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31-05-2018, 11:03 AM
#2259
Originally Posted by BlackPeter
Great sleuthing ;
However - what makes you think that this could not be the bend in the trend?
Last minimum was in March 2018 - since than higher highs (well, depending on how you measure them) and clearly higher lows.
MACD just turned "green" - indicating the start of a new uptrend.
Why do you think the share is still stuck in a downtrend?
It may or may not be the be the " bend in the trend " It has not been confirmed.
With fuel increases and the huge indebtedness of the general public. What is going to encourage them to buy cars..??
Why still stuck in a down trend. ?? . Did not say that.
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31-05-2018, 11:19 AM
#2260
Originally Posted by janner
With fuel increases and the huge indebtedness of the general public. What is going to encourage them to buy cars..??
I could think about a number of reasons for people to buy newer but pre-loved cars now (or soon-ish) ...
- old car breaking down? Remember the overall age of the NZ car fleet ...
- looking for a more reliable ride ... (again ref to age of our car fleet)
- looking for a safer ride ... some people do appreciate the higher safety rating of newer cars.
- looking for a more economic (but still affordable car) with petrol prices going up?
- the urge to invest the gummit's winter subsidy not just in smokes and booze?
- feeling rich after all these expected outrageous pay rises this year?
So many good reasons to look for a better used car.
This must be glorious times for a well organised one stop shop serving second hand car buyers with cars, finance, insurance and maintenance ...
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