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    Bjuack

    Im a political atheist, I don't vote for any bureaucratic leechers lining there own pocket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeslaGod View Post
    Well you thought wrong, were all adults, take the jab and get on with life.

    If you die from the virus then that's your decision, I don't need to be told what to do from there.
    Nothing at all to do with my argument!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeslaGod View Post
    Bjuack

    Im a political atheist, I don't vote for any bureaucratic leechers lining there own pocket.
    Do you think elected politicians should perform their duties unpaid? Also not all politicians have the intent to corrupt.

    It is why there is the full disclosure of MPs pecuniary and property interests - to see where vested interests may lie.

    Does that mean you do not vote in elections, accepting without complaint whichever party is elected into office?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
    Do you think elected politicians should perform their duties unpaid? Also not all politicians have the intent to corrupt.

    It is why there is the full disclosure of MPs pecuniary and property interests - to see where vested interests may lie.

    Does that mean you do not vote in elections, accepting without complaint whichever party is elected into office?
    I do not vote

    I do not accept any political party as my controller

    I do not earn an income

    I pay very little tax compared to my wealth and appreciation on my assets , I don't sell unless I'm rebalancing portfolio's.

    I believe I am as free as I can be from your political master's.

    Well in my heart and mind I am, which is as good as real freedom.

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    Matthew Hooton: Why MMP is our worst mistake
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12478919

    Another contributor to the housing issue…MMP. Bit simplistic, but nevertheless.

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    As a pure capitalist I believe National has lost its way since changing it's original founding principles.

    “To promote good citizenship and self-reliance; to combat communism and socialism; to maintain freedom of contract; to encourage private enterprise; to safeguard individual rights and the privilege of ownership; to oppose interference by the State in business, and State control of industry”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeslaGod View Post
    As a pure capitalist I believe National has lost its way since changing it's original founding principles.

    “To promote good citizenship and self-reliance; to combat communism and socialism; to maintain freedom of contract; to encourage private enterprise; to safeguard individual rights and the privilege of ownership; to oppose interference by the State in business, and State control of industry”.
    If you never vote as a matter of principle, then surely it is irrelevant what any political party stands for or its policies, whether any of them try to safeguard your privilege of ownership?

    Perhaps though you like big state involvement when it comes to the legal framework, judicial system and the enforcement and protection of your asset ownership? Do you like to rely on the socio-political system of private property rights and legal protection and enforcement without taking any responsibility for maintaining that system?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
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    Perhaps though you like big state involvement when it comes to the legal framework, judicial system and the enforcement and protection of your asset ownership? Do you like to rely on the socio-political system of private property rights and legal protection and enforcement without taking any responsibility for maintaining that system?
    Isn't this "small" government?

    Big government is that which tells us which light bulbs we are allowed, and how much more tax we should take from successful people

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    Quote Originally Posted by arekaywhy View Post
    Isn't this "small" government?

    Big government is that which tells us which light bulbs we are allowed, and how much more tax we should take from successful people
    No. I am not sure how you can label it “small” government, when it can fine and incarcerate you. The state looms large in protecting property rights, so why only call it big when it introduces product and safety standards and introduces taxes you may not like.

    Many successful people earn capital gains which, recent amendments notwithstanding, remain untaxed. NZ has a regressive tax system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
    No. I am not sure how you can label it “small” government, when it can fine and incarcerate you. The state looms large in protecting property rights, so why only call it big when it introduces product and safety standards and introduces taxes you may not like.

    Many successful people earn capital gains which, recent amendments notwithstanding, remain untaxed. NZ has a regressive tax system.
    Miss-read your post it seems, my bad.

    I do however think that the state should be a small entity, enforcing property rights, sure, but not infiltrating every facet of life.

    For tax, I think you are right, it should be far simpler, with a flat tax, no exception, and some form of income exemption to a limit.

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