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    I would not jump to any conculsions.
    BGP and HLG online sales are growing at approx. 6 to 8 times their retail stores.
    Some young people only buy online.
    I myself, with my imperfect body shape, would never buy clothing or shoes online,yet the rest of the family buy most of their clothes online.
    A young person I know, who works in London, told me where he works, they have a special room for staff to receive their online purchases.Couriers delivering orders all day long.
    Everytime I look to buy something ,like an electric knife,I google the product to compare prices.
    The same Sunbeam electric knife varied in price from $39 to $79.99.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    I know a clothing store owner who closed his shop last year after 20 years of business. I asked him why and he said because of a growing trend of young people coming into his shop, trying on clothing and then go out and order the exact same item online from overseas !
    It is known as "show-rooming".
    Most don't even leave the store to do their order.Scan the barcode to make sure they are ordering the right thing.!
    I note the likes of Myer in Australia are talking seriously to Mall landlords.Cut the rent by at least 30% or we are gone.
    With the demise of RFG and other retailers the mall mix is changing very quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    I know a clothing store owner who closed his shop last year after 20 years of business. I asked him why and he said because of a growing trend of young people coming into his shop, trying on clothing and then go out and order the exact same item online from overseas !
    Tough for stand alone retailers to be competitive, they simply don't have the buying power so the price difference the young people could get buying online was probably quite significant. HLG committed to providing a first class customer experience at attractive prices are in a nice sweet middle section of the market and as they expand in Australia their economies of scale continue to improve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    I know a clothing store owner who closed his shop last year after 20 years of business. I asked him why and he said because of a growing trend of young people coming into his shop, trying on clothing and then go out and order the exact same item online from overseas !
    Have friends who own a young persons clothing store in Dunedin, they have said they are probably going to have to shut shop for the very same reason. Sad to hear

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    Quote Originally Posted by RupertBear View Post
    Have friends who own a young persons clothing store in Dunedin, they have said they are probably going to have to shut shop for the very same reason. Sad to hear
    Its all about the price difference and if they leave a gap a mile wide that you can drive a bus through between what you can import it for and what the local retailer sells it for people will do exactly that. As an aside I can't help wondering how many people show room European cars with the exorbitant prices the local distributors want and then parallel import them from the U.K.
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    Quote Originally Posted by percy View Post
    I would not jump to any conculsions.
    BGP and HLG online sales are growing at approx. 6 to 8 times their retail stores.
    Some young people only buy online.
    I myself, with my imperfect body shape, would never buy clothing or shoes online,yet the rest of the family buy most of their clothes online.
    A young person I know, who works in London, told me where he works, they have a special room for staff to receive their online purchases.Couriers delivering orders all day long.
    Everytime I look to buy something ,like an electric knife,I google the product to compare prices.
    The same Sunbeam electric knife varied in price from $39 to $79.99.
    Yes I agree, HLG in particular are very strong online and have a great platform. They are also pretty price competitive with any other retailer. You'd struggle to find similar styles to hallensteins cheaper internationally. They have definitely picked slightly more edgy clothes as well recently which are harder to buy elsewhere for a good price.

    Very very hard for small retailers. They often charge $50 to $60 for a tee-shirt and people just aren't willing to pay that these days unless its a big brand name.

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    From WHS thread

    ROE not everything as markets love the easy way and use PE ratios as a valuation tool. But ROE is a great measure as to how well companies perform and how they generate returns is always interesting.

    Table is the ROE components of four listed retailers

    Easy to see why HLG and Briscoes have been the best performers of the four over many years

    HLG is a pretty high margin business with fantastic Asset Turns (driven from world class stock management resulting in high stock turns’

    Interesting that both Briscoes and HLG achieve these superior ROEs with no debt (ie no leverage from debt to increase ROE)
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    Percy wanted Lovisa added to the table

    Yes percy, Lovisa amazing

    High margin ....good stockturns ....make plenty of money

    Took a guess what full year sales and profit will be but even if I am out a bit might make difference to the story

    On these measures even better than HLG
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    Looking the way how things are going today, we shouldn't be too far away from an announcement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sb9 View Post
    Looking the way how things are going today, we shouldn't be too far away from an announcement.
    I reckon they'll release Thursday morning - better be good given all the pre-release buying thats been going on.

    Still a happy holder

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