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    Quote Originally Posted by h2so4 View Post
    I think we are being a tad conservative. There is plenty of growth left for HLG which isn’t reflected in the share price and we are not yet at the top of it’s business cycle.
    ....just didn’t want to get too excited .....F19 should be a boomer as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Beagle .....doubled our money now I reckon

    Not too bad for a year or twos work eh — especially when punters tried to talk us out of HLG seeing they were never going to be able to compete with those global behemoths and they were past their due by date and all that sort of stuff
    So many people were saying we were crazy buying under $3 a couple of years ago and retail was dead LOL

    Key for me will be how they're going in Australia. If Glassons keeps growing strongly over there.... with the Aussie market being fives times the size the potential going forward could really surprise. Might see $7 next year. Be good if they hold back some of the dividend this year and invest into new Glassons stores in Aussie and supercharge the growth. Never thought I'd be encouraging a dividend hound type company to hold back on the dividends LOL.
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    Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles View Post
    Maybe some correlation between currency and EBITDA margin. This seems to have broken down in the last couple of years. Brokers are forecasting a 14% margins for this year. I think management will have to be at the top of their game to fight against the currency tide.

    Year NZDUSD EBITDA Margin Change in Currency Change in EBITDA Margin Notes
    2006 0.649732 15.49%
    2007 0.736172 17.74% 13.30% 14.53%
    2008 0.714949 14.32% -2.88% -19.28%
    2009 0.635232 11.95% -11.15% -16.55% Recession
    2010 0.721623 13.96% 13.60% 16.82%
    2011 0.792322 14.00% 9.80% 0.29%
    2012 0.810275 15.58% 2.27% 11.29% Included insurance payout
    2013 0.8203 14.79% 1.24% -5.07% Management Blamed late start to winter
    2014 0.8306 13.06% 1.26% -11.70% Management admitted poor product mix
    2015 0.740516 14.31% -10.85% 9.59% Broker forecasts
    2016 0.68 -8.17%
    Least we forget.
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    [QUOTE=percy;723781]Least we forget.
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    Old data now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by percy View Post
    Least we forget.
    Posted 04-07-2015
    Was a good analysis but noodles did note that the relationship may have broken down

    That was a few years ago .....maverick would say it has
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    [QUOTE=Beagle;723782]
    Quote Originally Posted by percy View Post
    Least we forget.
    Posted 04-07-2015[/QUOTE]

    Old data now.
    Yep, keep loading the hay stack whilst the sun is shining, feed it out once the gloomy weather arrives.

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    [QUOTE=couta1;723784]
    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    Yep, keep loading the hay stack whilst the sun is shining, feed it out once the gloomy weather arrives.
    A lot to be said for momentum investing.
    Weather has been pretty good too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by percy View Post
    Least we forget.
    Posted 04-07-2015

    Wise words Percy. It may be old data but history often repeats and we can learn a lot from what might happen in the future from what has gone before. Theres a reason I’m not a holder.


    good potential return in the short term but have to watch things too closely for my liking.
    Last edited by Patient Panda; 07-08-2018 at 06:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Hope you fast reader shouldhaveheld .......HLG costing you heaps more every hour you dilly dally around

    Trust us .....its going to 6 bucks very soon

    Reason why will be apparent in next day or two .....maybe it’s $33m and not about $30m as i thought it might be.
    Hey I thought you sold when it went below $4.50 back in May? Did you buy back in or were you just tricking?

    Anyway I think it's going to be $31m. Over the past five years HLG have historically had slightly greater profits in the second half of the year. Historically when the full year results have come out HLG has traded on a trailing PE of between 11.5 and 15.5, with 13 being about the average. Based on that this is going past $6.

    I'm a bit gutted because I had an order in at $4.37 a couple of months back and I only just missed having it filled. There hasn't been many down days since then and now it's $1 more if I want to jump on board. Decisions, decisions.... but I think I'm leaning towards remaining on the sidelines and watching you guys have fun. As you say every day of dilly dallying around costs heaps. It's been that way for months and will probably continue that way for another few months at least. I'll probably be kicking myself in 6-12 months for sitting this one out.

    Good luck, I hope you guys get a boomer result!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patient Panda View Post
    Wise words Percy. It may be old data but history often repeats and we can learn a lot from what might happen in the future from what has gone before. Theres a reason I’m not a holder.


    good potential return in the short term but have to watch things too closely for my liking.
    Yeah, that's my thoughts too. This can rise and fall pretty quickly due to the low liquidity. I don't want to be trying to get to the exit at the same time everyone else is. Could almost be better sneaking out while nobody is looking???

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