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10-11-2017, 11:02 AM
#6971
I think there is another story to unfold over this ASX listing thing
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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10-11-2017, 01:29 PM
#6972
Originally Posted by winner69
I think there is another story to unfold over this ASX listing thing
Care to elaborate?
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10-11-2017, 02:35 PM
#6973
Originally Posted by Left field
Care to elaborate?
Speculation ....only time will tell what that story might be
When most gurus can’t see a logical explanation for it there has to be more than meets the eye....beyond the good old increased exposure and liquidity story
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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10-11-2017, 02:53 PM
#6974
The best explanation I've seen suggests that they want the share price supported by some of the Aus-only funds, and some of the overseas funds that would invest in the ASX but wouldn't think about anything on the NZX. Given the volatility that seems to come from the NZX shareholders freaking out at the slightest negative news, I can't blame them.
Rod and\or others might also be thinking that they need an exit strategy for some time in the future, which becomes much easier on the ASX than on the NZX.
Last edited by mondograss; 10-11-2017 at 02:55 PM.
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10-11-2017, 04:33 PM
#6975
Member
Originally Posted by Stumpynuts
Shouldn't NZX holders be rather happy with an instant gain due to $NZD/$AUD exchange rate?
Does anyone know what’s wrong with this XRO example:
Ignoring brokerage and fees … assume the SP and Ex Rate figures which are correct at the time of posting
Buy 1,000 @ NZ$33.00 total cost = $33,000
Hold shares till 31 January 2018, when the 1,000 shares get transferred to the ASX.
Sell 1,000 @ A$30.00 in Feb 2018 with exchange rate NZDAUD .9015 à Total cost = $33,278
Profit = NZ$278
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10-11-2017, 04:48 PM
#6976
Originally Posted by moka
Rohan Sundram, Citigroup Inc, Research Division - Director [14]
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Just one question. On the new debt facility, just trying to understand your thinking on the rationale given that you've got a pretty ample cash balance. Under what circumstances could you envisage drawing down on that facility such as -- is M&A still a possibility or what are the circumstances?
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Sankar Narayan, Xero Limited - Chief Operating and Financial Officer [15]
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The debt facility is purely intended to be insurance. We heard feedback from some investors that they would like to see a greater liquidity buffer, and we acted on it. The positive -- and we don't intend to draw on it. The good news is, as Rod mentioned in his opening remarks, it's a great validation for banks to put that debt facility in. It shows the growing maturity at Xero. So we're really pleased to have that, but it's purely meant for insurance purposes
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/edite...062930380.html
Some of the feedback from investors
https://simplywall.st/news/2017/10/30/when-will-xero-limited-nzsexro-need-to-raise-more-money/
When Will Xero Limited (NZSE:XRO) Need To Raise More Money?
Mercedes Harden October 30, 2017
"things will have to start changing, since its current operation is unsustainable."
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10-11-2017, 04:54 PM
#6977
Friday funnies
Originally Posted by Muppett
Does anyone know what’s wrong with this XRO example:
Ignoring brokerage and fees … assume the SP and Ex Rate figures which are correct at the time of posting
Buy 1,000 @ NZ$33.00 total cost = $33,000
Hold shares till 31 January 2018, when the 1,000 shares get transferred to the ASX.
Sell 1,000 @ A$30.00 in Feb 2018 with exchange rate NZDAUD .9015 à Total cost = $33,278
Profit = NZ$278
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10-11-2017, 06:06 PM
#6978
Originally Posted by moka
So it’s value is $2.19 ....bit overvalued at the moment eh
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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10-11-2017, 06:34 PM
#6979
Member
Originally Posted by Paper Tiger
Now I know why the share price is going south.
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10-11-2017, 06:40 PM
#6980
Originally Posted by Muppett
Does anyone know what’s wrong with this XRO example:
Ignoring brokerage and fees … assume the SP and Ex Rate figures which are correct at the time of posting
Buy 1,000 @ NZ$33.00 total cost = $33,000
Hold shares till 31 January 2018, when the 1,000 shares get transferred to the ASX.
Sell 1,000 @ A$30.00 in Feb 2018 with exchange rate NZDAUD .9015 à Total cost = $33,278
Profit = NZ$278
I will take this as a genuine question , Muppet please consider the following ....markets do move.
If you purchase 1000 shares @ NZ $ 33.00 fine , what if they are NZ $ 30.00 in Feb 18 ?
Also what if the shares are still NZ $ 33.00 however the exchange rate has moved to .9500, that gives you the equivalent of NZ$ 31,589
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