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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    dont think your be making much profit at the moment last week news killed the rally i reckon heading south for the foreseeable future support 26 looks like
    Why is it such bad news listing only on the ASX from a SP perspective?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muppett View Post
    Why is it such bad news listing only on the ASX from a SP perspective?
    Maybe fear of fundies with a NZX only mandate having to sell.

    Maybe the numbers weren’t too impressive .......$45m cash burn ......America numbers a bit slack ...slowing growth and all that

    Maybe punters think 11 times forward revenues just too excessive (who says the NZX doesn’t reward such companies)

    Maybe just one of those things that happens
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muppett View Post
    Why is it such bad news listing only on the ASX from a SP perspective?
    plenty of nzx only funds need to sell, why would you buy when they have to sell just wait for the s/p to fall cheaper.

    anyway there no guarantee sp in asx only will go higher , there was probably a nzx only premium on the shares as they enjoyed the fang moment.
    one step ahead of the herd

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    Quote Originally Posted by RGR367 View Post
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=11942805

    And on this, Brian Gaynor said: "Two of its biggest problems are the huge amount of off-market trading and the dominance of one broker. The NZX needs to address these issues immediately if it wishes to boost the integrity and long-term viability of the New Zealand sharemarket" but did not identify the broker. Would anyone know who that broker be?

    Actually the relevant point was that NZX listed securities don’t count towards free float liquidity for the purposes of the ASX All Ords Index. So despite having a bunch of shares being traded on the NZX they aren’t considered to be liquid at all from the ASX perspective so Xero’s weighting and for that matter eligibility for the All Ords (and any other relevant ASX index) is handicapped by the NZX shares not being counted. Delisting off the NZX adds all of the current NZX cap so the big Australian Passive Funds (awash with Super) have to index up once it joins the All Ords and the analysts will research and follow the stock.

    Market Capital raisings are easier because the share is followed... you get the drift. It’s inevitable without reform or the NZX offering to be swallowed into the ASX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rep View Post
    Actually the relevant point was that NZX listed securities don’t count towards free float liquidity for the purposes of the ASX All Ords Index. So despite having a bunch of shares being traded on the NZX they aren’t considered to be liquid at all from the ASX perspective so Xero’s weighting and for that matter eligibility for the All Ords (and any other relevant ASX index) is handicapped by the NZX shares not being counted. Delisting off the NZX adds all of the current NZX cap so the big Australian Passive Funds (awash with Super) have to index up once it joins the All Ords and the analysts will research and follow the stock.

    Market Capital raisings are easier because the share is followed... you get the drift. It’s inevitable without reform or the NZX offering to be swallowed into the ASX.
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/ind...ro-off-the-nzx

    looks like you still can get asx index inclusion if your prepared to do the work as fisher an pakel healthcare has done if you read the article above think thats what it says.

    So xero cant be bothered doing the work? in a hurry for some reason anyway agree still fundamental issues with the nzx and brokers
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    I'm personally disappointed by the decision to back away from NZX. NZ needs to be growing our own and not depending on ASX. Will it work for XRO holders? Who knows, but it's going to be interesting watching this pan out in the years ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Left field View Post
    I'm personally disappointed by the decision to back away from NZX. NZ needs to be growing our own and not depending on ASX. Will it work for XRO holders? Who knows, but it's going to be interesting watching this pan out in the years ahead.
    Still a NZX company

    And you can still invest in it

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Still a NZX company

    And you can still invest in it
    think a lot of nz private investors might sell as they might not want to invest in the asx , anyway i think credit suiss put out a downgrade on xero? as well
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    Nothing to panic about. Too much fear in the market of losing the profit. Xero is doing a good job promoting themselves but judging by the majority of trade is in NZX, there is still a lot more room to improve their mind share globally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Still a NZX company

    And you can still invest in it
    ...but only by taking on some currency risk that you might not want to take on.

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