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22-03-2018, 09:31 AM
#6221
Originally Posted by winner69
And beagle was looking forward to fly Jetstar
Will be voting against that Ogden guy being re-elected. Been there long enough and hasn’t been the ‘luckiest ‘ of Directors of late and wouldn’t want him to curse Sum
Nice for a change. Will have to have an Auckland get together instead. Come on folks....just a cheap return flight on AIR and you've got that wonderful Antarctica safety video to enjoy twice in one day.
Behind the paywall article on NBR today suggesting huge demand for retirement village living for the next 25 years and insufficient supply !
25 year tailwinds in this sector and a company with an average growth rate of 45% and a current year PE of less than 16...making long term capital gains doesn't get an easier than this !
Last edited by Beagle; 22-03-2018 at 09:34 AM.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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22-03-2018, 09:47 AM
#6222
Member
They better increase land bank in the Florida of NZ then - BOP very under represented
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22-03-2018, 10:00 AM
#6223
Originally Posted by dabsman
They better increase land bank in the Florida of NZ then - BOP very under represented
And lets hope the proposed foreign buyers ban, if it gets through Parliament, will not tie things up for the retirement village operators. The report referred to in the NBR article expects increase in the over 75 population to be 164% nationwide and 205% in Auckland from now until 2043, requiring 1654 new units every single year. Since 2012 the growth rate in villages being built has been 12%.
The future demand is incredible.
Last edited by iceman; 22-03-2018 at 10:19 AM.
Reason: spelling
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22-03-2018, 10:12 AM
#6224
Originally Posted by dabsman
They better increase land bank in the Florida of NZ then - BOP very under represented
With Roto-vegas and Tau--lando, the BoP village guards should be packing heat.
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22-03-2018, 10:14 AM
#6225
Originally Posted by iceman
And lets hope the proposed foreign buyers ban, if it gets through Parliament, will not tie things up for the retirement village operators. The report referred to in the NBR article expects increase in the over 75 population to increase 164% nationwide and 205% in Auckland from now until 2043, requiring 1654 new units every single year. Since 2012 the growth rate in villages being built has been 12%.
The future demand is incredible.
Which is why I am a happy holder of RYM and SUM.
Personally I think this and prior governments have got it wrong. National focused on a non-existent housing problem and Labour are focussing on Affordable Housing.
The solution in my mind is to focus solely on the retirement accommodation sector, incentivising "older" people into these housing opportunities and thus freeing up existing properties. I am very comfortable in the view no government will currently do this so your basic demand / supply economics remain in play - making RYM and SUM dead certs (or as close to a dead cert as you are likely to find)
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22-03-2018, 11:19 AM
#6226
Member
Originally Posted by Beagle
Nice for a change. Will have to have an Auckland get together instead. Come on folks....just a cheap return flight on AIR and you've got that wonderful Antarctica safety video to enjoy twice in one day.
Behind the paywall article on NBR today suggesting huge demand for retirement village living for the next 25 years and insufficient supply !
25 year tailwinds in this sector and a company with an average growth rate of 45% and a current year PE of less than 16...making long term capital gains doesn't get an easier than this !
I was hoping to happen in WLG, will have to arrange flights now, hopefully there is any good price there.
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22-03-2018, 11:22 AM
#6227
Originally Posted by iceman
And lets hope the proposed foreign buyers ban, if it gets through Parliament, will not tie things up for the retirement village operators. The report referred to in the NBR article expects increase in the over 75 population to be 164% nationwide and 205% in Auckland from now until 2043, requiring 1654 new units every single year. Since 2012 the growth rate in villages being built has been 12%.
The future demand is incredible.
Based on those growth rates the 2040 demand will be exceeded by supply around 2020? Time to sell?!
Disc: sum is my largest holding and has been for a few years.
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22-03-2018, 11:32 AM
#6228
Originally Posted by James108
Based on those growth rates the 2040 demand will be exceeded by supply around 2020? Time to sell?!
Disc: sum is my largest holding and has been for a few years.
Surely not everyone moving into retirement living is over 75... also, life expectancy is expected to rise steadily meaning they will be there for longer.
I only saw Auckland in that tidbit.
Last edited by hardt; 22-03-2018 at 11:35 AM.
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22-03-2018, 11:32 AM
#6229
Originally Posted by iceman
The future demand is incredible.
That's the key...the tailwinds in this sector are very strong and very durable.
Originally Posted by minimoke
Which is why I am a happy holder of RYM and SUM.
RYM and SUM dead certs (or as close to a dead cert as you are likely to find)
As certain as you will EVER find in my opinion.
Originally Posted by James108
Disc: sum is my largest holding and has been for a few years.
Congrats, my second biggest holding second only to ATM.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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22-03-2018, 11:49 AM
#6230
Originally Posted by Beagle
Congrats, my second biggest holding second only to ATM.
ATM put me in a position where I had to double down. SML I had to Double Double down. SUM didnt, so its in third spot in holdings ranks behind those other two.
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