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23-10-2018, 09:26 AM
#6991
Originally Posted by BlackPeter
Sounds like they do have a challenging task ahead ... ;
Discl: still holding SUM, but significantly reduced the holding while SP was between MA50 and MA100 ;
gargantuan is the word I'm told
Dorothy would be proud of Beagle's question
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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23-10-2018, 09:40 AM
#6992
Summerset achieve 223 new unit sales in Q4 .....as the yanks say that’s 1,000 annualised
So 1,000 annualised would be zillions of underlying profit
Means share price about $12.00
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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23-10-2018, 09:42 AM
#6993
Originally Posted by BlackPeter
Just consulting my spreadsheet ...
Last years total sales numbers: 682, of them 382 new and 300 resale.
Q1 to Q3 2018 sale: 447, of them 227 new and 220 resale.
Q4 required to match last year: 235, of them 155 new and 80 resale.
Q4 required to match 450 new sales: 223 new to sell in Q4
Have they ever sold 155 or 223 new units in one quarter? No, highhest new unit sells in any one quarter have been 125 units in Q3-2016;
Highest resell number in any quarter have been 98 in Q4 2017 ... I.e. they might make up a bit with that, but unlikely a material amount.
Sounds like they do have a challenging task ahead ... ;
Discl: still holding SUM, but significantly reduced the holding while SP was between MA50 and MA100 ;
Thanks BP, may I nominate you for the understatement of the day ?
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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23-10-2018, 09:51 AM
#6994
Originally Posted by Beagle
Thanks BP, may I nominate you for the understatement of the day ?
But Julian says new sales are aligned to new units delivered
He can’t be wrong
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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23-10-2018, 09:55 AM
#6995
Originally Posted by winner69
Summerset achieve 223 new unit sales in Q4 .....as the yanks say that’s 1,000 annualised
So 1,000 annualised would be zillions of underlying profit
Means share price about $12.00
Originally Posted by winner69
But Julian says new sales are aligned to new units delivered
He can’t be wrong
LOL We will see.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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23-10-2018, 09:56 AM
#6996
Originally Posted by winner69
But Julian says new sales are aligned to new units delivered
He can’t be wrong
I guess there are different ways to align two numbers: you can increase one of them or you can reduce the other ...
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" (Niels Bohr)
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23-10-2018, 10:00 AM
#6997
Hey guys,
If you would only have these two options, which would u prefer in say the medium term with the way property prices etc are going.
SUM to less 400 units at higher margins or SUM to sell 450 units at slightly lower margins?
I am just trying to see what other investors are more inclined towards.
Thanks
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23-10-2018, 10:04 AM
#6998
Originally Posted by LAC
Hey guys,
If you would only have these two options, which would u prefer in say the medium term with the way property prices etc are going.
SUM to less 400 units at higher margins or SUM to sell 450 units at slightly lower margins?
I am just trying to see what other investors are more inclined towards.
Thanks
Jeez Dorothy is busy today with her questions
One other question LAC .....hold out for higher margins ....when is the ‘clearance sale’ due?
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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23-10-2018, 11:27 AM
#6999
Originally Posted by winner69
Jeez Dorothy is busy today with her questions
One other question LAC .....hold out for higher margins ....when is the ‘clearance sale’ due?
I hope there isnt one, but they might so do if all keep wanting them to 450 sales
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23-10-2018, 11:47 AM
#7000
I see the Govt is now under pressure to increase the funding in order for nurses to be retained in the sector, they are currently running off to work for the DHB for a substantial better hourly rate. Not for profits are under particular pressure of course.
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