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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    They don't have to. It is just one of these conventions. Makes communication with others easier if both sides use the same definition.

    OK - So you say you call a crossing of other MA's then everybody else the cross of death. Makes life more complicated, but fine with me.

    However - you still didn't reveal which MA's supposedly did cross today in this sinister way? I don't know - and it appears you don't either ...
    I see it BP on this 5 day chart
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    Interesting amount of single digit low number trades today and at 5pm SP boots to 5.70 ? ..........

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    Oh boy... Habour Asset Management buying SUM... I'd usually take an asset management firm buying up shares in xyz listed company as a good sign... but then you realise these guys are the ones who made a joke of themselves valuing their 7.32% stake in CBL Insurance at 28 cents a share (when we all knew it was worth nothing), but more worrying still is that they are the biggest holder of PEB with a whopping 16.47% stake (as at 31 March 2019)... both of these are fairly recent... and today these guys are disclosed buying more SUM........ given Harbour's very questionable recent track record (and its all about track records, as we know only to well on this form) I would think it is hard to get excited about them continuing to sink money into SUM.
    Then again forsyth (the ones who like ARV) think SUM is pretty okay as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by trader_jackson View Post
    Oh boy... Habour Asset Management buying SUM... I'd usually take an asset management firm buying up shares in xyz listed company as a good sign... but then you realise these guys are the ones who made a joke of themselves valuing their 7.32% stake in CBL Insurance at 28 cents a share (when we all knew it was worth nothing), but more worrying still is that they are the biggest holder of PEB with a whopping 16.47% stake (as at 31 March 2019)... both of these are fairly recent... and today these guys are disclosed buying more SUM........ given Harbour's very questionable recent track record (and its all about track records, as we know only to well on this form) I would think it is hard to get excited about them continuing to sink money into SUM.
    Then again forsyth (the ones who like ARV) think SUM is pretty okay as well
    Harbour have plenty of A2
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    Default Black/Golden Crosses July 2019 to-date

    Wow. What a month!.. and it isn't even up yet.

    Using my 1 hour MA and 1.25 day MA, there has been 16 Black Crosses and 15 Golden Crosses this month

    We sure live in volatile times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaygor1 View Post
    Wow. What a month!.. and it isn't even up yet.

    Using my 1 hour MA and 1.25 day MA, there has been 16 Black Crosses and 15 Golden Crosses this month

    We sure live in volatile times.
    Good that more black crosses than golden crosses results in an upward movement in share price over the last month.
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    1 year share price performance on NZX (not including any dilution etc)

    MET -28.7%
    SUM -26.63%
    OCA -4.5%
    RYM +7.8%
    ARV +9.88%

    Kudos to TJ and fellows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    1 year share price performance on NZX (not including any dilution etc)

    MET -28.7%
    SUM -26.63%
    OCA -4.5%
    RYM +7.8%
    ARV +9.88%

    Kudos to TJ and fellows.
    why would you invest in any of them at those stats ......
    Maybe what goes down, must come up...eventually .

    ps.. holding SUM

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    Today:

    SUM $5.70
    RYM $13.37

    Wasn't there once a neat little "rule" that had SUM at 50% of RYM's shareprice?


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    Quote Originally Posted by macduffy View Post
    Today:

    SUM $5.70
    RYM $13.37

    Wasn't there once a neat little "rule" that had SUM at 50% of RYM's shareprice?

    Yea, but IMO there appears to be hot money chasing the top end of the NZX listings. RYM falls into that group, SUM is a bit smaller doesn't have a multi-billion market cap. This is assisting SUM to testing the lower end of this rule. Poor sales by SUM aren't helping.

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