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    might have a sniff at 5.40 - 50 for short bounce
    one step ahead of the herd

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    Quote Originally Posted by trader_jackson View Post
    Posted about 8 months ago... share price was 25% or so higher than it is today... really did hold up very well for another month and a half.

    Given the 'we are slowing down big time' light has been flashing on SUM for a while now, it was mystifying to see it bounce in early Feb... the writing seemed to be on the wall for months prior, and this has just confirmed it.

    Residents need a reason to go to an ever increasing number and ever flasher villages... the 'that's a nice unit in a nice place' no longer cuts it... they need the full english breakfast and sum listed operators just don't do a good job at the continuum of care side of things in all their villages, while others do (and will be far more resilient in a housing slow down)

    Not even a month ago ARV was singing a near totally different tune to SUM today: both with solid pricing and settlements... at over $6, holding up pretty well really.
    The 'holding up pretty well really' was clearly not going to last... if it gets into the low-mid $5, I could be come sumwhat interested... most of the risks (slower sales, higher leverage, building more than can be sold, poor continuum of care, just to name a few) should then be priced in.

    Then again, the experts at Forsyth still saying its all good... $7.35 buy price
    Then again, the same guys say ARV is worth north of $1.60 for a couple years now so maybe not so experty
    Last edited by trader_jackson; 08-04-2019 at 02:58 PM.

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    Average ratio is 55% which is $6.63 for SUM.Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onion View Post
    Bids have dried up. Currently something like 10 times more for sale than have buyers!
    Lemmings gather in numbers before they jump off the cliff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by couta1 View Post
    Average ratio is 55% which is $6.63 for SUM.Lol
    Ladies and Gentlemen. The Couta1 relativity theorem is THE GOLD STANDARD and has stood the test of time for well over half a decade. 55% price relativity to RYM is the average according to the author of this foolproof theory and therefore the stock has a current fair value of $6.63. Forget about TA, FA quarterly results and everything else lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    Ladies and Gentlemen. The Couta1 relativity theorem is THE GOLD STANDARD and has stood the test of time for well over half a decade. 55% price relativity to RYM is the average according to the author of this foolproof theory and therefore the stock has a current fair value of $6.63. Forget about TA, FA quarterly results and everything else lol
    The average since listing (on monthly closes) is SUM being 50% of RYM and essentially has ranged from 40% to 60%

    Has been like this for ages and probably will be like this for ages to come.

    As posted the other day .....the red line has gone down a fraction eh

    So versus the ‘mean’ at the moment SUM is slightly undervalued v RYM ......but significantly undervalued v OCA ....no that’s funny
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    Since further growth is likely to be low is there any reason SUM should sell for more than its net assets ? MET is below net assets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    The average since listing (on monthly closes) is SUM being 50% of RYM and essentially has ranged from 40% to 60%

    Has been like this for ages and probably will be like this for ages to come.

    As posted the other day .....the red line has gone down a fraction eh
    Yep 50% is the benchmark line but over the last 2-3 yrs the average has been around 55% so using that to cheer up the discouraged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freddagg View Post
    Since further growth is likely to be low is there any reason SUM should sell for more than its net assets ? MET is below net assets.
    MET has leaky ship issues of an ongoing nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by couta1 View Post
    Yep 50% is the benchmark line but over the last 2-3 yrs the average has been around 55% so using that to cheer up the discouraged.
    And cheer ourselves up at the same time lol
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