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16-04-2019, 09:54 AM
#7561
http://nzx-prod-s7fsd7f98s.s3-websit...427/298500.pdf
Their very latest monthly update released this morning might have some insights
Agree 100% BP. I can now disclose I have a significant number of Kingfish warrants. I would like SUM more but I have leaned not to let the cat out of the bag until at earliest, most of the buying is done.
Last edited by Beagle; 16-04-2019 at 10:19 AM.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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17-04-2019, 08:27 AM
#7562
failure to rise back above $6 this week will confirm the breakdown thru support in my analysis. watching for the CGT release soon this could have a big downside risk for these stocks
one step ahead of the herd
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17-04-2019, 08:35 AM
#7563
 Originally Posted by bull....
failure to rise back above $6 this week will confirm the breakdown thru support in my analysis. watching for the CGT release soon this could have a big downside risk for these stocks
I don't think you understand CGT.
Why would you think that any form of CGT would impact on the retirement village providers?
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" (Niels Bohr)
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17-04-2019, 08:42 AM
#7564
Originally Posted by BlackPeter
I don't think you understand CGT.
Why would you think that any form of CGT would impact on the retirement village providers?
why because if they introduce a CGT on investment property it will affect the property market by reducing the sales as not as many buyers any more for property. history shows sustained drop in sales leads to lower property prices at some stage.
If anyone doesnt understand property market affects these stocks , i suggest you need to better understand them
Last edited by bull....; 17-04-2019 at 08:44 AM.
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17-04-2019, 08:47 AM
#7565
Originally Posted by bull....
why because if they introduce a CGT on investment property it will affect the property market by reducing the sales as not as many buyers any more for property. history shows sustained drop in sales leads to lower property prices at some stage.
If anyone doesnt understand property market affects these stocks , i suggest you need to better understand them
So true mate........and it doesn’t have to be a sustained drop in sales ...the relationship between sales and price intrinsically linked in short / medium term time frames as well
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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17-04-2019, 08:50 AM
#7566
Originally Posted by bull....
why because if they introduce a CGT on investment property it will affect the property market by reducing the sales as not as many buyers any more for property. history shows sustained drop in sales leads to lower property prices at some stage.
If anyone doesnt understand property market affects these stocks , i suggest you need to better understand them
LOL - The US have a CGT - and property prices in New York are cheap? The UK has a CGT - but only the Brexit circus brought London property prices down. Australia has a CGT (since 1985) ... and yes, more than 30 years after introducing it Sydney property prices start to go down (but not due to the CGT).
Do you have any evidence to offer or is this just your usual down ramping?
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" (Niels Bohr)
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17-04-2019, 08:50 AM
#7567
Originally Posted by BlackPeter
I don't think you understand CGT.
Why would you think that any form of CGT would impact on the retirement village providers?
The effective tax rate of about zero percent for many retirement village operators means there is always a potential risk if tax laws change. If they build and own but don't sell a CGT based on realised sale profits shouldn't be a problem. The difficulty would be of the sale of occupation rights was classified in such a way it was considered a property sale but I wasn't aware of that being an option on the table.
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17-04-2019, 08:51 AM
#7568
Originally Posted by bull....
why because if they introduce a CGT on investment property
There is already a CGT on investment property via the Brightline test.
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17-04-2019, 08:53 AM
#7569
Originally Posted by BlackPeter
LOL - The US have a CGT - and property prices in New York are cheap? The UK has a CGT - but only the Brexit circus brought London property prices down. Australia has a CGT (since 1985) ... and yes, more than 30 years after introducing it Sydney property prices start to go down (but not due to the CGT).
Do you have any evidence to offer or is this just your usual down ramping?
Just his usual bull.
Last edited by Beagle; 17-04-2019 at 09:37 AM.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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17-04-2019, 08:58 AM
#7570
Originally Posted by minimoke
There is already a CGT on investment property via the Brightline test.
brightline is for a defined period after which it is tax free , CGT means you pay tax no matter how long you hold it. very big difference
CGT has very real implications
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