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    Default NZ Oil & Gas (NZO)

    Since the old NZO thread disappeared just about when significant changes are imminent for NZO, this new thread is to pick up from the old one.

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    Admin note: Please start a new NZO thread as the old one will be read only when it comes back in:

    Admin Note: You can still view the old NOG thread here: OLD NOG/NZO THREAD
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    Exactly Arjay,
    If NZO post a dividend then watch this stock fly.
    We covered this possibility a week or so ago so I wont repeat myself.

    And yes if Cape or Kopowai are success(s) then of course the whole area ( and NZO ) get rerated upward.

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    This is what reverts back to what type of investor you are if you made money or lost money on NZO. A TA person with a stop loss sell system would have made heaps at the expence of a fundamentalist we are always right brigade. I encountered a similar thing on the nickel miners with my shares doubling in price to drop right back. If i had been a dummy i would have watched my profits vanish like some of you with NZO. The point is have you learned from the experience or are you still always right, and will continue on being sitting duck material. Some people might argue that they have had NZO shares for so long that they lost nothing, which is total rubbish.
    If you had the shares and options when the price peaked and still hold, then i suggest you are sitting duck material waiting on the next season to open. NZO requires large sums of money to continue prospecting, its not going to give out crumbs to feed the ducks like some of you quackers think. They might try and pull a fast one to get the price up for the options to get more money in but other than that you have had it. I would think you are on a downtrend regardless of what the fundamentals are. Macdunk

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    Quote Originally Posted by duncan macgregor View Post
    This is what reverts back to what type of investor you are if you made money or lost money on NZO. A TA person with a stop loss sell system would have made heaps at the expence of a fundamentalist we are always right brigade.
    I think it's time to remind you of your very own foray into NZO macduck.
    You bought a truck load of NZO shares ("enough money invested to buy an average house" - your words) at $1.18. You sold those shares two yrs later for 90c. What type of investor are you macduck? :o
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    Tapis oil price rising ..... back above US$78 / barrel

    See second diagram:

    http://www.aip.com.au/pricing/marketwatch.htm

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    Mick100,
    I think Macdunk is going to refute that very strongly. I cant believe Macdunk would get taken for a ride all the way down from 118 to 90. He would have stop losses in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick100 View Post
    I think it's time to remind you of your very own foray into NZO macduck.
    You bought a truck load of NZO shares ("enough money invested to buy an average house" - your words) at $1.18. You sold those shares two yrs later for 90c. What type of investor are you macduck? :o
    I was waiting on you coming out the woodwork MICK, nice to see you see you havent changed. Why dont you tell them all what i did after i sold MIck. Options i valued at 5c remember sold the lot at 9c bought PPP at 11c sold at 21c. I then bought MCR at $2-15 sold that lot after it more than doubled placed my origonal stake in the bank left half in MCR at no cost. Would you like to know what happened to my NZO share money mick or have you had enough. On top of all that the exchange rate has made nearly a 5% gain. You did the same with PGW didnt you you ride it all the way up the hill and all the way down. I would suggest a PHAEDRUS sharp and short course of market reality, and perception might be the cure for your little problem.
    I am now into trading full time MICK will keep you up to date before the event as usual. Your old mate macdunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermuda View Post
    Mick100,
    I think Macdunk is going to refute that very strongly. I cant believe Macdunk would get taken for a ride all the way down from 118 to 90. He would have stop losses in place.
    I normally do but was caught up in the hype learned a very big lesson. Still it is no worse than Mick this is second dumping from a great height. At least i learned a lesson and moved on. Macdunk

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    Quote Originally Posted by duncan macgregor View Post
    I normally do but was caught up in the hype learned a very big lesson. Still it is no worse than Mick this is second dumping from a great height. At least i learned a lesson and moved on. Macdunk
    There is a very slight difference between your NZO experience and that of mine macduck; You had an average buy price of $1.18 while my ave buy price is 51c; you have sold while I still hold; your away chasing the next hot stock while I'm happy to wait and watch this company develope it's projects.

    You obviously thought NZO had better prospects 2.5 yrs ago, (when you were prepared to pay $1.18 for the shares) than it has today. Today you claim the shares are overvalued at $1.00
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick100 View Post
    There is a very slight difference between your NZO experience and that of mine macduck; You had an average buy price of $1.18 while my ave buy price is 51c; you have sold while I still hold; your away chasing the next hot stock while I'm happy to wait and watch this company develope it's projects.

    You obviously thought NZO had better prospects 2.5 yrs ago, (when you were prepared to pay $1.18 for the shares) than it has today. Today you claim the shares are overvalued at $1.00
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    Mick The shares are only worth what the market is willing to pay for them. When i bought at $1-18 the shares had a few holes to drill now they have less potential with the latest couple of dusters. Its not what you or i think its worth its what the market thinks its worth right now the market has been in a confirmed downtrend. You could have been out on two occasions about thirty percent higher over the years than the sp is today. NZO was the very worst share i ever bought simply by letting hype and bulldust make me forget to act on my TA rules. Hope you learn from your mistake in watching the sp drop thirty pc twice without acting along with your PGW. Macdunk

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    I know the joy of forums is a good debate, and the two of you feast off each other in this regard, but I think it's a bit much?

    I think debasing a share is as (if not more) important than ramping it up. That being said I don't think that requires finger-pointing or names.

    Dunc, why can't you bash NZO without pointing to your perceived failure of another? Similarly, Mick why aren't you content with your perceived successes to date with NZO without picking at Dunc's shortcomings?

    Not trying to stifle or mediate... just thinking aloud. I think people will be more likely to take your thoughts and opinions to heart if you depersonalize them.

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    JONNY5, Mick picking on me will highlight my shortcomings which might save you from making a similar mistake in the future. Likewise i bring his shortcomings to the fore. We both give the occasional poke in the ribs to see if the other ts awake. I LUV THE GUY LIKE AN IDIOT BROTHER we both enjoy the banter sit back and relax he cant even spell MACDUNK so be gentle with him. Macdunk

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    Yes I agree we should keep this thread constructive. Otherwise we should go over to Hotcopper.

    Now that Tui is pumping and the excitement of the drills has passed, I would expect this thread on NZO to get a lot quieter.

    Tui is pumping well and Kupe and Pike are getting nearer each day. Gradually NZO will climb especially at today's oil and coal prices and exchange rates.

    And hopefully there will be good news at Kupe and perhaps another Tui upward rerating that was alluded to by David Salisbury....and then of course there was talk of a dividend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post

    Not trying to stifle or mediate... just thinking aloud. I think people will be more likely to take your thoughts and opinions to heart if you depersonalize them.

    J5
    I think the reason macduck keeps bombarding us with his bullsh!t posts on this NZO thread is because his investment into NZO was a disaster. He's simply knocking the company because he lost quite a substancial amount of money on it . The reason why macduck lost money on NZO has nothing to do with the company and everything to do with his horribly flawed, short sighted approach to investing/speculating.

    As long as macduck keeps posting his bullsh!t on this thread I will remind him of his foray into NZO - I think he needs to be reminded ocassionally
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    It was difficult to pick up NZO shares under NZ$1. Not many changed hands but I got a few more. The NZO share price is as usual very soft upwards and the spread increases quickly with any significant volume. Accumulating is difficult even for the very patient. With the NZOOD’s on the horizon to raise NZ$150M and meet all forseeable future project funding requirements, there are no cheap share issues to stuff up the share price advancing.

    NZO is accumulating NZ$1M per day at present from Tui and will be for many more months. Three months is 100 days – as one poster on Fixx noted, as I remember – “a junior oiler in full flight is a wonder to behold”. With the speculators out of the way (or trying to get out) now is the time for some share price appreciation and share value realisation.

    Put the Taranui drill into perspective. It cost NZO less than a few days Tui revenue. The final Tui project cost AUD330M (according to AWE at the end of August) and will be paid back before the end of September (this month!) and we only have a year or two of Tui production left - without a field extension.

    The Tui consortium spent A$330M for potentially A$3,300M in revenues – does investing ever get any better than this? Another Maui perhaps…

    It is a little disappointing that the Tui oil field didn’t stretch 15km up to Taranui but the up side to drills closer to TAP is still huge.

    We can now fortunately sit back and watch Tui cash accumulate from a very successful project, fantastic oil prices, and a favourable exchange rate. NZO can take some time to consider the clues provided from the current drilling program as to where more of that ‘Naki oil can be found.

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