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    PHEADRUS, You had better get ready to duck these people wont face reality. Newyears day 2005 until today about exactly the same level. Tomorrow it goes up 5c then its i told you so. Reality for you and me comes hard, but at least we learn then move on. the people left in NZO are not TA people who are long gone its the i know better than the market brigade who struggle to spell macdunk. Get in behind mate let the crap hit me first i luv it.
    I only hope new to the market investors get a ballanced view and learn from all this. Macdunk

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    Cool Wouldn't this oiler stock be better?

    [QUOTE=duncan macgregor; Reality for you and me comes hard, but at least we learn then move on. I only hope new to the market investors get a ballanced view and learn from all this. Macdunk[/QUOTE]

    I'll leave it up to you guys to work it out, surely this quality ASX stock gives a much more diversified entry into oil/NZ fields, and also showing the beginnings of an uptrend/ not downwards like PPP & NZO

    Notice- the squeezing of the bollingers with the start of an uptrend
    (Bollinger squeeze shows eminent change)

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    Cool Compare NZO

    Hi
    Compare NZO with AWE! The SP is in a crabbing sideways with again the bollinger squeeze with uncertainty (choppy SP) more chance of further down than up is my pick. PPP is very similar with more down than sideways.

    Thanks Phaedrus for your OBV observations, I only use the freebie sites that don't have them, unless you know of some?

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    kissssik

    Agree with Z.....maybe it is time for the rampers (SC included, like it or not my friend your one of the best) and the likes of MacD to find some other stock to either hipe up or beat up in MacD case, constructive fact based comment is the go, HC was mentioned seems some here are well suited for that forum given the amount of BS on this forum.
    kissssik....
    I cant think of one stock That Ive ramped that hasnot turned out well... aed, nwe boomed... tex up over 20%... CUE picked at the top end of the market and up....nzood picked twice, end of 2006, and recently... both times Od's went physco...call it what you like kissssik...
    I'd like to see you make stock picks in a open public forumn successfully...
    If im a ramper then so be it... at least I can back it up with facts...
    I never ramped Pike....and I put RRS on a major sell...
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    nzo had buy written all over it 2-3 months ago, and I stand by that with pride...
    with all the market volatility, nzo and nzood are still up when I started pushing nzood...had you sold out of nzo at the top you would have been up over 30cps... and over 200% on the od's...
    sometimes my picks look so attractive that I have to give abit more omph... I was getting called ramper on nwe left right and center, and then in 2 weeks it shot up a one bagger...
    kisssk, I hope you find it in your heart to forgive me for being alittle boisterous at times...
    what have your returns been like?
    you never no maybe you wish you had taken my advice...
    I get mad support for what I do around here...what are you on about...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrewd Crude View Post
    kissssik....
    I cant think of one stock That Ive ramped that hasnot turned out well... aed, nwe boomed... tex up over 20%... CUE picked at the top end of the market and up....nzood picked twice, end of 2006, and recently... both times Od's went physco...call it what you like kissssik...
    I'd like to see you make stock picks in a open public forumn successfully...
    If im a ramper then so be it... at least I can back it up with facts...
    I never ramped Pike....and I put RRS on a major sell...
    ....
    nzo had buy written all over it 2-3 months ago, and I stand by that with pride...
    with all the market volatility, nzo and nzood are still up when I started pushing nzood...had you sold out of nzo at the top you would have been up over 30cps... and over 200% on the od's...
    sometimes my picks look so attractive that I have to give abit more omph... I was getting called ramper on nwe left right and center, and then in 2 weeks it shot up a one bagger...
    kisssk, I hope you find it in your heart to forgive me for being alittle boisterous at times...
    what have your returns been like?
    you never no maybe you wish you had taken my advice...
    I get mad support for what I do around here...what are you on about...

    .^sc
    SC

    Plenty of people are happy to ride on the back of those who offer tips, & knock them as rampers when they sell, water off a ducks back i say!

    Sheesh i get called that all the time

    Back to NZO, in a way i'm glad all these distractions of satelite drilling are behind us, im disappointed the SP is where it it, but now its starting to look like your beloved NWE, cheap & with cash rolling in every week ...

    Markets rightly discount future projects, but NOT CASH!

    Perhaps the traders will now leave NZO for greener pastures & the value investors move in?

    Am still looking to exit, but at a much higher SP

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    I'm getting a buy signal. A bullish divergence of the Stochastic on the 15th August and a crossing of the MAC histogram a fortnight later. Or has the stock simply fallen into a trading range again? (Note: Incredible charts uses delayed data)
    Last edited by AMR; 28-08-2008 at 09:23 PM.
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    (On second thought, it's probably not a buy signal since the 5 month trendline just got broken. A pullback rally? God these charts are tough.)
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    AMR has sold all shares and is pursuing property.

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    $NZ down and oil prices up...
    Having got ourselves into a debt-induced economic crisis, the only permanent way out is to reduce the debt either directly by abolishing large slabs of it, or indirectly by inflating it away.

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    Hi Phaedrus,

    Isn't NZO strictly speaking still in a long term up trend...? As far as I can see there's a continuation of higher highs and higher lows starting in early 2003... This pattern will only be broken with a break of support of the low of 80'ish in late 2005.. or maybe that's just far too simple a view....?

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    The options have held up extremely well.
    Punters still picking a 60% increase in the NZO share price by the end of June.

    Thats what I call confidence.
    Toddy

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBob View Post
    Hi Phaedrus, Isn't NZO strictly speaking still in a long term up trend...? .. or maybe that's just far too simple a view....?
    Absolutely right BB. That's why (amongst other things) it is on the chart of 16 "potential buying opportunities" on the 'Market Perspective' thread.

    Just because it is in a long-term uptrend doesn't necessarily mean that it is best to simply "Buy and Hold" though. While, overall, NZO has been an out-performing stock, it has also gone nowhere for years at a time on the way up. The idea is to be in when it is going up and out when it is going sideways or down. They call it "active investing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toddy View Post
    The options have held up extremely well.
    Punters still picking a 60% increase in the NZO share price by the end of June.

    Thats what I call confidence.
    Well, that is almost 10 months away. 6 odd weeks ago head shares were $1.30+ and so options looked much healthier.
    There hasn't been any real fundamental change - a couple speculative drills were dusters - not unexpected, but TUI is flowing, and more than expected.
    June is a long time away..

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    Add 15% more oil in Tui, FX change around +12%, Oil still high. When currrent panic over & "year to date" trading announced around time of AGM, & usual kupe hoopla $1.50 will look cheap!!

    good to hear how much money you have made MacDrunk also

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    duncan. you are taking nzo personally. stocks for short term purposes are like a one night stand. just because you had a good or bad time when the show is over its time to say goodbye.....let is go. you have left nzo becuase nzo stood you up. it happenes all the time so get over it already and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaedrus View Post
    Just because it is in a long-term uptrend doesn't necessarily mean that it is best to simply "Buy and Hold" though. While, overall, NZO has been an out-performing stock, it has also gone nowhere for years at a time on the way up. The idea is to be in when it is going up and out when it is going sideways or down. They call it "active investing".
    Fair call - but for a less active investor (like myself) maybe it could be argued that it is prudent to hold at least till the up trend is broken...

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    Now that all the drills in this series are completed [sadly all failures] the SP will now move on existing fundamentals and not on speculation.In fact the drills have had a negative effect on the SP as there was always a chance that they would be unsuccesful.That negative effect was greater than it should have been and now that the drills are out of the way the SP can now move forward on fundamentals.Or put it another way the SP will now be decided by investers and not speculators. Or again another way the SP would be higher today if NZO had never taken part in a drilling series.It seems to me that the only negative effect of drilling a dud well should be limited to your % cost of the unsuccessful drill. With NZO the negative effect is much greater that just thoses costs.

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    any one see mention on NZO in ASB securities August market update ? also Dsurf dont forget PRC it might be a big dissapointment so far but it will start producing before options are excised so watch this space
    Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nita View Post
    duncan. you are taking nzo personally. .
    Recon not Some just like a good debate. Amongst other things, isnt that what these forums are all about??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nita View Post
    duncan. you are taking nzo personally. stocks for short term purposes are like a one night stand. just because you had a good or bad time when the show is over its time to say goodbye.....let is go. you have left nzo becuase nzo stood you up. it happenes all the time so get over it already and move on.
    NITA, Life is not all bang bang thank u maam. At least that is better than being stuck forever and a day with something as dull and lifeless as NZO. On a more serious note how is this for an idea?.
    NZO buy shares with their substantial profits at market price all the way up to conversion date, Lets face it look at the money they will miss out on if the options are not taken up.
    That would save pass the parcel embarrassment with the options when they are worth nothing. They would raise the price of their shares add a new pile of shares with the options being worth something then drip feed it back to the punters at a profit. Macdunk

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    true macdunk im sure they would rather get funds off optionholders to finance development rather than other avenues as would send a very negative view to market if ODs dont get in the money
    Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils

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