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    I have always been a fastidious brusher of my teeth and have visited my dentist religiously every 6 months, so I was alarmed when late last year he told me that I had severe periodontal (gum) disease, was at risk of losing all my teeth and that I needed to visit a specialist for treatment.

    In February I underwent some fairly major oral surgery to deal with the problem that I had belatedly been made aware of by my dentist.
    The procedure involved (all under anaesthetic) removal of three teeth that could not be saved, serious (and painful) scaling of plaque off all my teeth, including cutting of gums surrounding five teeth - so deep scaling could be undertaken - then suturing of the wounds. The periodontist told me that I was at serious risk of losing my remaining teeth over the forthcoming years due to the extremely poor condition of my gums. This all involved a great deal of discomfort and cost me several thousand dollars.

    While I am now even more particular about my oral hygiene, immediately following the surgery I also decided I would start taking BLIS Toothguard which contains the M18 probiotic for oral health. I have been a shareholder in BLIS for many years but never before have I used any of its products.

    Today I returned to the periodontist for my 3 months check-up (which I will do every quarter from now on) and in his words he "was amazed at the condition of my gums." He said they have returned to almost normal condition, he could not believe how good they now are and how quickly they have recovered. He said that f they remain in this condition my risk of tooth loss is now almost negligible.

    I then advised him that I had been taking BLIS M18 for the last 3 months. His eyes widened and he said that had heard of the product but had always been unconvinced of the science behind it. "Your changed condition is so amazing that I think I might now be a believer" he said. He intends to prepare a paper on the results of my case and to circulate it among his colleagues.

    As a result of my experience I will definitely be changing my dentist - but what I wont be changing is taking one BLIS Toothguard tablet each night.
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    pierre I had similar experience though much much less serious. I mentioned in a post above. My dentist did not know about M18. He does now but that says to me BLT should be educating dentists.

    Maybe you could send your post to BLT along with the name of your dentist. They should be able to provide scientific background for his paper.

    Some dentists might see M18 as competition but I am sure most won't.

    I also wonder about the experiments on school children here and in Italy. Seems they were successful and even a small reduction in strep throat >>> rheumatic fever would pay for itself quickly. Cheaper than a full time school nurse anyway.

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    [QUOTE=artemis;713218]pierre I had similar experience though much much less serious. I mentioned in a post above. My dentist did not know about M18. He does now but that says to me BLT should be educating dentists.

    Maybe you could send your post to BLT along with the name of your dentist. They should be able to provide scientific background for his paper.

    Some dentists might see M18 as competition but I am sure most won't.

    I also wonder about the experiments on school children here and in Italy. Seems they were successful and even a small reduction in strep throat >>> rheumatic fever would pay for itself quickly. Cheaper than a full time school nurse anyway.[/QUOTE

    Thanks Artemis. I have Brian Watson's email address so I have just sent the message off to him.

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    [QUOTE=pierre;713215]I have always been a fastidious brusher of my teeth and have visited my dentist religiously every 6 months, so I was alarmed when late last year he told me that I had severe periodontal (gum) disease, was at risk of losing all my teeth and that I needed to visit a specialist for treatment.
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    While I am now even more particular about my oral hygiene, immediately following the surgery I also decided I would start taking BLIS Toothguard which contains the M18 probiotic for oral health. I have been a shareholder in BLIS for many years but never before have I used any of its products.

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    A bit sorry for your M18 experience coming a bit late but your "research" on BLT then should have included at least, trying out the product first
    I tried M18 almost at the same time I got my first bundle of BLT shares though my result was not at spectacular as yours for my teeth/gums have been good ever since. And I can vouch 100% for the K12 efficacy on my throat when I tried it.

    disc: holder but my time limit on holding it expires about this year
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    A bit sorry for your M18 experience coming a bit late but your "research" on BLT then should have included at least, trying out the product first
    I tried M18 almost at the same time I got my first bundle of BLT shares though my result was not at spectacular as yours for my teeth/gums have been good ever since. And I can vouch 100% for the K12 efficacy on my throat when I tried it.

    disc: holder but my time limit on holding it expires about this year[/QUOTE]

    Trying the product before buying the shares? Well possibly but, I don't like milk so probably shouldn't hold ATM, not ready to retire yet so that excludes RYM, SUM & OCA, don't need accounting software so no XRO etc etc etc.

    Never knew I had the problem gums so never thought about M18 as a preventative - but man - am I an advocate now!

    Agree the company has been trying our patience for many years - in my case since 2005! I've been tempted to get out of BLT many times but always think the "next big thing" is just around the corner. Maybe there are more corners in the world than I ever imagined and we have just haven't found the right one yet. I'm just short of break-even on my holding so I'll hang on a bit longer I think. May 21st (or thereabouts) might be the catalyst for action though.

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    Another Directors fee increase?
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick View Post
    Another Directors fee increase?
    Seems a few directors are exiting soon

    Some might say rats deserting the rusty ship ....even though the changes have been dressed as up a rolling refresh program to ensure all the skills needed exist

    Love to see the gre Board’s Skills Matrix
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Seems a few directors are exiting soon

    Some might say rats deserting the rusty ship ....even though the changes have been dressed as up a rolling refresh program to ensure all the skills needed exist

    Love to see the gre Board’s Skills Matrix
    Guessing that it is those exiting directors selling their shares today or at least someone in the know. A sudden flurry of activity so it doesnt bode well for when their annual results come out, which will no doubt be this week. Disappointed yet again.

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    A game of two halves ....but looking pretty good for the new year

    Life in this dog yet

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    Accumulated losses now $34m plus
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    Could have been a lot worse.

    Revenue: 1st Half 2,072 Full 5,288 = Last half revenue 3,216k

    Costs: 1st Half -3,318 Full -6,330 = Last half costs -3,012k

    Loss: 1st Half -1,246 Full -1,042 = Last half profit 204k

    Last half revenue up 19% on prior year's last half, p3.

    The word "borrowings" appears, p5. However p35 explains that this is a 5yr pay down of the purchase of the last manufacturing plant.

    The phrase "finished goods" has now got "including prominent co-branding", p6, leaving clearer room for ingredient sales?

    Satisfied with "ongoing concern" basis, p26. Working capital sufficient, p26. No mention of a capital raising that I saw.


    So better than the first half could have led to, but still not cooking with gas. But they just reported the second profitable half year, as I recall it. That's good.

    Is this just a necessary rough patch while the company accommodates to new management? Or is it struggling to turn out profit of any size long term? It will probably be a couple of years before that becomes clearer.


    So, neither good nor bad? Need more time to see any trend?

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