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02-12-2016, 05:12 PM
#2091
Originally Posted by winner69
What's the average price Pascoe's have paid?
Anybody know
My guess would be around 2.80. Let's hope it ends better than Jan Cameron's
foray into Pumpkin patch
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03-12-2016, 07:27 AM
#2092
Member
Numbers don't lie so I need help to understand the latest JP filing. This disclosure 64,537,890 shares, prev. disclosure 60,700,673 shares-a difference of 3,837,217. The transaction triggering latest disclosure declares 855,803 shares purchased 30 November. If the total number now held is correct where are the details of the missing 2,981,414 shares. Also we know on 30 November some 1.5+m shares traded at the close so a little intrigue as to who purchased the other 700k or so?
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03-12-2016, 07:45 AM
#2093
Kiwitrev, 30 Nov was index rebalancing day and WHS was removed from the MSCI small cap index hence the large volume of traded shares, the other 700k would have been purchased by passive index funds.
Last edited by couta1; 03-12-2016 at 07:50 AM.
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03-12-2016, 08:11 AM
#2094
Originally Posted by kiwitrev
Numbers don't lie so I need help to understand the latest JP filing. This disclosure 64,537,890 shares, prev. disclosure 60,700,673 shares-a difference of 3,837,217. The transaction triggering latest disclosure declares 855,803 shares purchased 30 November. If the total number now held is correct where are the details of the missing 2,981,414 shares. Also we know on 30 November some 1.5+m shares traded at the close so a little intrigue as to who purchased the other 700k or so?
They only need to disclose the last sale that took them over the +1% mark - not all their buy/ sells since the last disclosure.
A bulk of the other 700k shares purchased on 30 Nov were probably BlackPeter topping up
Some insto just attach a printout of all there transactions - pages and pages of them sometimes
Last edited by winner69; 03-12-2016 at 08:15 AM.
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03-12-2016, 08:53 AM
#2095
Member
Fair enough Couta, but how does the MSCI index correlate to the now holdings of JP which are now disclosed as 64,537,890 shares. Just trying to understand how it all works.
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03-12-2016, 09:21 AM
#2096
Member
Originally Posted by winner69
They only need to disclose the last sale that took them over the +1% mark - not all their buy/ sells since the last disclosure.
A bulk of the other 700k shares purchased on 30 Nov were probably BlackPeter topping up
Some insto just attach a printout of all there transactions - pages and pages of them sometimes
Hi Winner
So as long as any single trade is under 1% no disclosure is required?
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03-12-2016, 09:28 AM
#2097
Originally Posted by kiwitrev
Fair enough Couta, but how does the MSCI index correlate to the now holdings of JP which are now disclosed as 64,537,890 shares. Just trying to understand how it all works.
No relationship / correlation between MSCI and JP
But as part of that rebalancing exercise that Couts mentioned JP might have picked up some of those that needed to besold by fund managers
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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03-12-2016, 09:39 AM
#2098
Originally Posted by kiwitrev
Hi Winner
So as long as any single trade is under 1% no disclosure is required?
Only need to disclose when you increase / decrease by 1% from last disclosure ....and then only disclose the trade / event that took them over that threshold
In case of the last JP disclosure - they needed to disclose when they increased shareholding to 64,166,000 odd (18.5%). That happened with that purchase of 855,803 the other day even though that purchase was 0.25% of total shares.
Totally confused now aren't you.
You would have been happier if they listed all buy/sells eh
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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03-12-2016, 09:44 AM
#2099
Member
Originally Posted by winner69
Only need to disclose when you increase / decrease by 1% from last disclosure ....and then only disclose the trade / event that took them over that threshold
In case of the last JP disclosure - they needed to disclose when they increased shareholding to 64,166,000 odd (18.5%). That happened with that purchase of 855,803 the other day even though that purchase was 0.25% of total shares.
Totally confused now aren't you.
You would have been happier if they listed all buy/sells eh
Would sure make it easier for everyone after all not everybody is a sophisticated investor and it should be more transparent.
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09-12-2016, 10:51 AM
#2100
Good to see share price hanging in there about the $3 mark
How's this year going performance wise for WHS Group
After 4 years of declining EPS (ex Morningstar) hopefully F17 will be better?
Been some effort in seeing EPS down 44% in those 4 years - when core retail sales in NZ have been booming (up 18% in same period)
This behemoth has to turn around some time doesn't it?
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