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06-03-2018, 04:05 PM
#2781
No question about it those are staggering numbers for all the wrong reasons ! No question this dinosaur is in long term systemic decline.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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07-03-2018, 01:10 PM
#2782
Only viable option I can see for them is to start a supermarket chain to take over those leases. Not the extra half way house rubbish they tried, go all in.
In a country where the owners of a single Pak n Save can be worth $60m, the profit margins are there.
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07-03-2018, 01:19 PM
#2783
Originally Posted by Jaa
Only viable option I can see for them is to start a supermarket chain to take over those leases. Not the extra half way house rubbish they tried, go all in.
In a country where the owners of a single Pak n Save can be worth $60m, the profit margins are there.
Those Pak n Save supermarkets are rumored to make between $3m to $5m a year!
Warehouse has lost the opportunity to set up as a supermarket chain imo - market is already saturated by the two existing players.
Where I stay, there's 4 Countdowns, 2 Pak n Save and 3 New Worlds all within 10 minutes drive! One Countdown is closing soon however as the other is within 3 minutes drive! Madness.
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07-03-2018, 03:36 PM
#2784
Originally Posted by Balance
Those Pak n Save supermarkets are rumored to make between $3m to $5m a year!
Quite likely true. Why they get firmly held by the families that own them, and passed down to the kids, or get them into their own supermarket.
In Dunners, when they put a new Countdown in Sth D, they estimated that the impact on the local Pak N Save might be a loss of 27% of turnover, equating to $23m. Means they were turning over more than $85m through a supermarket.
That was 8 years ago!
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08-03-2018, 07:18 AM
#2785
Nick finished his presentation and pretty pleased with how it looks....and he’s introduced a few new buzzwords
Over theme remains the retail world is changing and we are changing with it and putting platforms in place to ensure our future and excellent progress is being made....but it will take time
Should appease a patient market
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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08-03-2018, 08:47 AM
#2786
WHS a growth company at last .....from the headlines
EARNINGS PER SHARE
9.2 cents per share versus 3.9 cents per share in 2017, an increase of 135.9 %
That’s pretty good growth
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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08-03-2018, 09:10 AM
#2787
Originally Posted by winner69
WHS a growth company at last .....from the headlines
EARNINGS PER SHARE
9.2 cents per share versus 3.9 cents per share in 2017, an increase of 135.9 %
That’s pretty good growth
https://www.nzx.com/announcements/315243
Please read above link in conjunction with Winners comment......
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08-03-2018, 09:12 AM
#2788
Reading everything it seems that the Warehouse Group are saying that declining profits are ‘good’ as long as the decline is expected and anticipated
Anyway after a much improved H2 they should make $50m profit this year (on some fandangled definition of profit) and as long as the divie remains intact it’s all honky dory.
Last edited by winner69; 08-03-2018 at 09:13 AM.
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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08-03-2018, 09:37 AM
#2789
They should not have put all the "decreases" into the begin of the announcement. Creates bad vibes. Will we see the today a drop through the magical $2?
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" (Niels Bohr)
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08-03-2018, 09:42 AM
#2790
Originally Posted by BlackPeter
They should not have put all the "decreases" into the begin of the announcement. Creates bad vibes. Will we see the today a drop through the magical $2?
And the drops were on things like ‘Continuing Business’ as well
But looking into the future things look bright so the $2 should hold for now ....good divie though
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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