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    Creating options=opportunity
    At this juncture, their publicly traded investment vehicle, Berkshire Hathaway US:BRK US:BRK seems to offer investors three ways to win.
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/qu...of2&yptr=yahoo

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    Often when you don't know what you should do then do nothing but sit on your hands but read,listen & be ready to buy.
    In hindsight, you may have missed some good opportunities but don't kick yourself,we all do that but there will a better one around the corner
    https://www.marketscreener.com/busin...8/?countview=0
    "Mr. Munger, vice chairman of Berkshire Hathaway Inc. and Warren Buffett's longtime business partner, likes to say that one of the keys to great investing results is "sitting on your ass." That means doing nothing the vast majority of the time, but buying with " aggression" when bargains abound."
    Last edited by kiora; 19-04-2020 at 12:25 PM.

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    "Some of the lessons from the current situation were that businesses should not be over-leveraged, and shouldn't rely on just one debt provider, Orr said."
    Good advice !
    How many businesses stick to one banker?
    "Given the Government had made it clear it did not want to be a long-term owner of existing privately-owned commercial enterprises, that implied "bringing in skills" and more partnerships, he said."
    As long as its not the banskters!
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/121...+22+April+2020

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    Are you allowing algorithms to beat up your portfolio?
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/a-vie...160248892.html
    A view from the trading floor: Algorithms having 'outsized impact' amid coronavirus panic
    "Computer-driven trading algorithms — often faulted for volatile markets even during the best of times — certainly aren't helping now, Aronowitz explained.The algorithms feed off of each other, creating an environment with less liquidity.

    "When market volatility increases, liquidity decreases as market makers reduce the inventory they are allowed to carry within their portfolio," the investor explained."
    "Often times, prices need to go far beyond "value" before institutional money is willing to step into this type of market. "This ultimately leads to a cycle of calm and market normalcy,"

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    For you Hoop
    "So now, we are going to have even more zombie companies standing in the way of progress, and Potemkin markets whose prices are meaningless.

    That scheme will reward some people. But probably not you.?

    https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/1...tion-financial

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiora View Post
    For you Hoop
    "So now, we are going to have even more zombie companies standing in the way of progress, and Potemkin markets whose prices are meaningless.

    That scheme will reward some people. But probably not you.?

    https://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/1...tion-financial
    Another person who wrote that article, who thinks they're smart. No one audits these goons because what they say today, will never be verified later on in a year or 10 years time. Like Robert Kyosaki has been saying for the past 7+ years that there will be a mega stock market crash... sooner or later as each year goes buy he will guess it right.

    What ever happened to the zombies that formed from the 2008 crisis?

    Equities are rebounding because the world gov'ts can't let it fail. You're not going to beat them by going against them so might as well joint them. Oh.. cash in the bank? bonds? = nope. What is left then? No wonder the smart money keeps fueling the stock markets.

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    Oouch I bet they though their money was safe too!
    "Franklin Templeton will wind up $4.1 billion of Indian debt funds after a liquidity crisis compelled the firm to freeze investor withdrawals."
    "At least 76 European mutual funds with $40 billion in assets suspended redemptions last month, according to Fitch Ratings.
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/frank...035101159.html

    Templteton promoted in NZ by a certain broker
    I am pleased I got out years ago yudk

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBQ View Post
    Another person who wrote that article, who thinks they're smart. No one audits these goons because what they say today, will never be verified later on in a year or 10 years time. Like Robert Kyosaki has been saying for the past 7+ years that there will be a mega stock market crash... sooner or later as each year goes buy he will guess it right.

    What ever happened to the zombies that formed from the 2008 crisis?

    Equities are rebounding because the world gov'ts can't let it fail. You're not going to beat them by going against them so might as well joint them. Oh.. cash in the bank? bonds? = nope. What is left then? No wonder the smart money keeps fueling the stock markets.
    Are you suggesting here all companies are too big to fail regardless of performance & management?
    Really sad

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiora View Post
    Are you suggesting here all companies are too big to fail regardless of performance & management?
    Really sad
    This is not an issue of 'too big to fail'. These companies were completely viable before the virus escaped China. All the gov'ts around the world had no choice but to ramp up the printing press while forcing everyone in quarantine.

    Really sad is those financial advisors and analysts that get paid for 'merely breathing air'. The NZ gov't implemented an investment scheme that does not account for such crisis so no one else but the NZ gov't should be held accountable for the stock market crash. On the radio today they talked about 1st time home owners can get funds from their Kiwi Saver fund. Not a word was mentioned how bad it is to sell shares in a crash and the when the person walks in the office to their financial advisor that talks about their Kiwi Saver fund, they're not going to disagree about using the funds for a deposit on a home. Is this to say, the investments in a residential home is BETTER than investments in managed funds? Get real here! No wonder the rich get rich.

    Templteton promoted in NZ by a certain broker I am pleased I got out years ago yudk
    My father living in Canada had invested in John Templeton's Mutual Funds from the late 80s to shortly after 2000. His returns? Nothing to rave about and despite their fancy charts in their prospectus, they did not show how much the fund was paying in commissions to the financial advisors that sold their clients to buy their managed funds. Hindsight my father should of bought Berkshire Hathaway. I think it's fair to say in N. America where you have over 3,000 different managed funds you can choose to invest in, the vast majority of them DO NOT WORK for the average investor (meaning your working class folk that makes routine contributions every week or month). Yet, over many decades these funds continue to exist and Warren Buffet has demonstrated how Wall Street and gov't regulatories have been effective at promoting it.. selling it ; no different to how auto makers promote their vehicles.

    If you sense my tone, a person living in NZ wanting to invest should look at residential properties. If the hassles of dealing with rental payments, upkeep, etc deter the person, then they would be paying huge price by choosing the managed fund route or taking their $ to Craigs, MacQuires, Jarden, etc.

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    True enough. In the New Zealand environment, successive governments have ensured that property is the most rational choice.

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