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    Good chart winner... thanks for posting, quite revealing.

    Looks like the SP has some downside yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    thl must be stretching their credibility a bit.

    • The $50m Profit target well and truly gone out the window ...even though they say underlying business should achieve this in 2021
    • The never announced profit target ‘well in excess of the $50m’ obviously just a tease
    • Big global acquisitions put on the back burner for now as things are just too expensive (implies thl current value is just too high as well)
    • Nobody wanted to pay over the odds for their NZ tourism businesses

    Suppose investors need to keep the faith and continue to believe the th2 initiative reaps huge rewards in due course after a period of significant amounts of cash being pumped into it

    But I fear that ‘immediate’ and ‘decisive’ reviews generally don’t have good outcomes ...esp when a capital review are also mentioned in the same sentence

    Hope the bargain hunters did get a bargain on Thursday
    Very telling that they're no longer talking about $50m plus.
    They're really looking out of their depth with the U.S. operations and especially TH2 which looks like a classic tech company, invest squillions and cross your fingers and hope.
    What exactly is their strategy to get a return from TH2 ? To my mind this has never been communicated to the market.
    All those dividends they've been paying out over recent years as you've astutely reminded us have been paid while debt has been ballooning so dividend yield just like the $50m the yield looks like some disingenuous illusion to get people of board does it not ?
    How big a capital raise do they need in your opinion mate ?
    EPS of 20 cps on $25m,...I really struggle to see even $3.00 in this now and even then a forward PE of 15 when there's clearly major surgery required looks fairly optimistic.
    Probably time for Rob Campbell to reduce his workload this year given his age and the amount of weight he's carrying.
    I wouldn't mind wagering a few bob he'll be stepping down from his role at THL in the next year or two.
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    not sure if CITIC Group Corporation still interested this business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzsharetrade View Post
    not sure if CITIC Group Corporation still interested this business.
    I doubt very much they Will be interested in the US part of the business right now !

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzsharetrade View Post
    not sure if CITIC Group Corporation still interested this business.
    Better hope they still are if you are a shareholder!

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    Will Citic start selling if they are not interested any more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin View Post
    Will Citic start selling if they are not interested any more?
    Will there be any sizeable buyers ?
    What about if there's a major cash issue ? Will they participate or allow their stake to be diluted ?
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    I reckon that current SP almost equal to Citic’s cost price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin View Post
    I reckon that current SP almost equal to Citic’s cost price.
    According to records, they bought at around $4.80 to $5.00

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    Will there be any sizeable buyers ?
    What about if there's a major cash issue ? Will they participate or allow their stake to be diluted ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    According to records, they bought at around $4.80 to $5.00
    Seems that was the case

    So they under water now ...might need to average down?

    Probably participated in last week’s DRIP as well ....that was at $4.92 ...bit of a bugger that was
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