sharetrader
Page 382 of 397 FirstFirst ... 282332372378379380381382383384385386392 ... LastLast
Results 3,811 to 3,820 of 3966
  1. #3811
    Advanced Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2021
    Location
    Auckland
    Posts
    1,624

    Default

    Proactive the right word here. Rather than just sitting around waiting. This line caught my eye
    "Significant anticipated cost out synergies are expected to deliver a steady-state EBIT benefit of $17M to $19M per annum, and fleet rationalisation is expected to generate in excess of $40M of net debt benefit"

  2. #3812
    Speedy Az winner69's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    , , .
    Posts
    37,907

    Default

    Quite a few on this thread said thl needed to takeover Apollo


    Taken thl a while to get around to it .... but probably a bit cheaper now than 2 to 3 years ago
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

  3. #3813
    Speedy Az winner69's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    , , .
    Posts
    37,907

    Default

    If thl share price stays about where it is now Apollo shareholders getting about 73 cents for their 55 cents shares

    Should be happy with that .... a good get out of jail card and jeez they'll cream it in future when the new combined group profits soar
    Last edited by winner69; 10-12-2021 at 11:30 AM.
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

  4. #3814
    Speedy Az winner69's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    , , .
    Posts
    37,907
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

  5. #3815
    Speedy Az winner69's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    , , .
    Posts
    37,907

    Default

    Good deal Jeremy? .... haven't heard from you for a while
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

  6. #3816
    Speedy Az winner69's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    , , .
    Posts
    37,907

    Default

    Merger seems to be totally based on 'synergies' .... the presentation mentions it 38 times

    When I was involved in M&A work I made myself and others read The Synergy Trap by Mark Sirower on a regular basis. Essentially retired from such things now but might pull my copy of the shelf and have another read.

    Mergers based on synergies often don't add much value (or not to the extent originally estimated). Invariably synergies are over valued.

    There's a saying often heard in the Board room ... 'Where did all the synergies go'

    Be interesting how this pans out for thl
    Last edited by winner69; 10-12-2021 at 01:06 PM.
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

  7. #3817
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    470

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Merger seems to be totally based on 'synergies' .... the presentation mentions it 38 times

    When I was involved in M&A work I made myself and others read The Synergy Trap by Mark Sirower on a regular basis. Essentially retired from such things now but might pull my copy of the shelf and have another read.

    Mergers based on synergies often don't add much value (or not to the extent originally estimated). Invariably synergies are over valued.

    There's a saying often heard in the Board room ... 'Where did all the synergies go'

    Be interesting how this pans out for thl
    Agree that is the main risk medium term but in this case both businesses are almost identical and there will be plenty of corporate and property costs they can eliminate over 2-3 years. If they can’t execute these synergies then it will make a good chapter in a book.

  8. #3818
    Speedy Az winner69's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    , , .
    Posts
    37,907

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbroath View Post
    Agree that is the main risk medium term but in this case both businesses are almost identical and there will be plenty of corporate and property costs they can eliminate over 2-3 years. If they can’t execute these synergies then it will make a good chapter in a book.
    At least the Apollo shareholders will get the synergy value up front.

  9. #3819
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2019
    Location
    South of the Bombays
    Posts
    289

    Default

    Interesting to compare the closing THL (NZ$3.02) and ATL (A$0.70) share prices today. Noting that the scheme if it progresses will deliver 1 THL share for every 3.680818 ATL shares and using a AUD:NZD midpoint of 0.9497, the effective THL purchase price via ATL is a bit over NZ$2.71.

    The reasons why this large arbitrage exists are presumably:

    1. Concern the transaction won’t proceed (whether regulatory or failure to get ATL shareholder support)
    2. Australian ATL shareholders not wanting shares in a NZ company and therefore getting out of ATL
    3. The material increase in the ATL share price today encouraging both traders and long suffering ATL shareholders to take the cash now.
    4. The increase in the THL share price today not having dawned on ATL selling shareholders (this mornings announcements suggested an effective value of A$0.7358 per ATL share however this was based on a THL share price of NZ$2.85).

    The ATL share price also suggests the market doesn’t anticipate a superior offer for ATL appearing.

    Will be interesting to see how the two share prices track next week.

  10. #3820
    Legend
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Everywhere
    Posts
    7,001

    Default

    Dividend still on hold until at least 2023 .. while the rugs get shaken out & aired ?

    Frankly any perceived Synergies values look better invested out of this troubled sector IMO
    Last edited by nztx; 11-12-2021 at 01:34 AM.

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •