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    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    I've never really understood the whole "non-ethical" thing about SKC. They sell entertainment to people who want to buy it. The entertainment is not damaging per se. Almost all companies will do their level best to get you to buy something you don't need and can't afford with money you don't have. Gambling can be addictive and can damage people's lives. The same is true, to some degree, of many products and services. SKC would be one of very few companies who go out of their way to identify problem customers and discourage them from their consumption. I'd call that within the bounds of normal ethical behavior.
    Exactly the view I have ... I'm glad I'm not alone.

    SkyCity has a "Surveillance" team of 50-100 people constantly watching people inside the Casino and looking for signs of "gambling distress" ... all staff are trained to look out for the signs that guests are no longer having fun and will eject them from the casino if this is detected (hence SkyCity may lose their casino licence). There is also a permanent police/government information sharing agreement due to the highly regulated nature of the business. I don't believe the same can be said for the pokies at the local workingmans club or RSA! I always find it's a huge double standard that the TAB and Lotto get to advertise on prime time TV where SkyCity is not allowed to advertise anywhere except for brand signage around their precinct ... you may notice the complete lack of "Casino" signs except for the single one at the front of the building ... this is because of regulations.

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    No matter whatever others think that casino in Auckland it is a den of iniquity .. and that's being kind.

    Out of curiosity went inside once - a couple of minutes in a dingy area squelching through wet carpet was enough to put me off for good....and then some poor souls heading off to the carpark (no doubt to check on the kids).

    was staying at the place for a conference - not by choice
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    Should move towards 3.50.

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    3.50? No please please not yet... awa NOOOOOooooo... waste of a good pandemic.. cant these newbies understand... no dividends... low profits... no asian high rollers.... oh well we will trade the sell off back from 4 dollars then..

    the new chairs in the bar areas in hamilton very nice pitty the champagne bar is closed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    ... that casino in Auckland it is a den of iniquity ..
    Den of iniquity is a lovely phrase. Apparently taken from Jesus's phrase "den of thieves" referring to traders working in the temples. Does not seem to apply to gambling particularly though. "Iniquity" apparently refers to wickedness or being sinful. From Jesus's perspective that would principally mean transgression of the commandments of the God of the Bible, the ten commandments. Pretty much any trader open on a Sunday would meet that threshold.

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    that so called church in south auckland is a den of well... slick tribal leaders ... quick fleecing dinner every day in the lords name... not sure whats worse casinos that say they are gambling.... or prayer that is ? local prayer group here meet in each other homes... we could shut down horse racing and sport betting as well...better stop looking at that horse painting on the wall... that horse must have made a lot of people a lot of money on the track and a lot of sport gamblers a lot of money...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hogie View Post
    Exactly the view I have ... I'm glad I'm not alone.

    SkyCity has a "Surveillance" team of 50-100 people constantly watching people inside the Casino and looking for signs of "gambling distress" ... all staff are trained to look out for the signs that guests are no longer having fun and will eject them from the casino if this is detected (hence SkyCity may lose their casino licence). There is also a permanent police/government information sharing agreement due to the highly regulated nature of the business. I don't believe the same can be said for the pokies at the local workingmans club or RSA! I always find it's a huge double standard that the TAB and Lotto get to advertise on prime time TV where SkyCity is not allowed to advertise anywhere except for brand signage around their precinct ... you may notice the complete lack of "Casino" signs except for the single one at the front of the building ... this is because of regulations.
    I wouldnt try to think too hard about the logic of it all (Mcdonalds is hardly good for humanity or the planet but I dont see that on many "avoid" lists). Just important to remember that fashionable marketing parameters, which influence the SP, are in play. You cant fight it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hogie View Post
    Exactly the view I have ... I'm glad I'm not alone.

    SkyCity has a "Surveillance" team of 50-100 people constantly watching people inside the Casino and looking for signs of "gambling distress" ... all staff are trained to look out for the signs that guests are no longer having fun and will eject them from the casino if this is detected (hence SkyCity may lose their casino licence). There is also a permanent police/government information sharing agreement due to the highly regulated nature of the business. I don't believe the same can be said for the pokies at the local workingmans club or RSA! I always find it's a huge double standard that the TAB and Lotto get to advertise on prime time TV where SkyCity is not allowed to advertise anywhere except for brand signage around their precinct ... you may notice the complete lack of "Casino" signs except for the single one at the front of the building ... this is because of regulations.
    That's very interesting on the advertising. I have seen an online casino advertising on television but I haven't seen Sky advertising their online casino on TV

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    Quote Originally Posted by tango View Post
    That's very interesting on the advertising. I have seen an online casino advertising on television but I haven't seen Sky advertising their online casino on TV
    SkyCity is prohibited from advertising their online casino in NZ ... even though it's only available for people in NZ. You will not see any print media, tv advertisements, mailers etc.
    The online casino is not allowed to be hosted in NZ so is therefore hosted offshore in Malta as a separate business entity ... however SkyCity has pledged to still pay tax on the profits made by the online casino (even though by law it does not have to).

    I guess the business leaders can try their best to be good corporate citizens but at the end of the day the haters are still going to hate ... those of us who have an open mind can appreciate it's actually an awesome entertainment and hospitality company doing some really cool and unique things!

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