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[ralph]

Pricing up ,I like it Bob

[ronaldson]

At last, an article in today's NZ Herald regarding the use of fly in / fly out Russian crews on NZ registered vessels operated by local fishing companies (not Sanford, but Sealord and Independent Fisheries) in spite of our sanctions and other legal framework, which are completely ineffectual in context. This shows how hollow the Ardern Government response to the war in Ukraine actually is, and the lack of moral fibre and backbone demonstrated by the companies concerned.

I have lobbied Herald journalists for some time to shed light on this issue and at last one has done so. Hopefully there will be further reporting in due course.

[iceman]

At last, an article in today's NZ Herald regarding the use of fly in / fly out Russian crews on NZ registered vessels operated by local fishing companies (not Sanford, but Sealord and Independent Fisheries) in spite of our sanctions and other legal framework, which are completely ineffectual in context. This shows how hollow the Ardern Government response to the war in Ukraine actually is, and the lack of moral fibre and backbone demonstrated by the companies concerned.

I have lobbied Herald journalists for some time to shed light on this issue and at last one has done so. Hopefully there will be further reporting in due course.

Agree. It is outrageous that Sealord & Independent continue with their Russian businesses, as nothing has changed in the World. While it has nothing to do with Sanford, it is pertinent to comment on this thread as this issue has the potential to severely affect the whole NZ fishing industry in a negative way. Well done for your lobbying ronaldson.
Here is a link to the paywalled article https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/long-s...ACL66ALSNHAJ4/

[ralph]

I disagree the war in Russia is between them and we should not get involved ,plus sanctions are going to be the wests especially Europe's downfall .
Peace talks are what is needed not more bullying

[TFA]

At last, an article in today's NZ Herald regarding the use of fly in / fly out Russian crews on NZ registered vessels operated by local fishing companies (not Sanford, but Sealord and Independent Fisheries) in spite of our sanctions and other legal framework, which are completely ineffectual in context. This shows how hollow the Ardern Government response to the war in Ukraine actually is, and the lack of moral fibre and backbone demonstrated by the companies concerned.

I have lobbied Herald journalists for some time to shed light on this issue and at last one has done so. Hopefully there will be further reporting in due course.

Sorry I disagree. It would be extremely harmful for those companies. If enacted, those companies would have to tie the vessels up and pay the ongoing leases and wage costs to the Russian/Ukranian owners and crews. There are no workers in NZ with the desire let alone skills to crew those vessels. As well as being devastating for those companies, it would lead to all those fish not being caught which would not be good given fragility of global food supply situation/rampant inflation etc.
Therefore believe such measures would be more harmful than helpful in the fight against Putin.

I agree it would be great to not be dependent on foreign workers, but NZ has a labour crisis for any worker, let alone highly specialised and complex situations such as these situations.

[BlackPeter]

I disagree the war in Russia is between them and we should not get involved ,plus sanctions are going to be the wests especially Europe's downfall .
Peace talks are what is needed not more bullying

Absolutely - So, if your neighbor is burning down your house, raping your wife and killing your children, than I take it nobody should come and help you against this neighbor? Certainly - nobody should punish him. Maybe arrange a community conference where your neighbor might promise to stop killing your children if you offer to serve him a lifetime as a slave?

I am sure you would be happy as Larry, wouldn't you? - or are you just a hypocrite?

Putin is sending mass murders and rapists into Ukraine and destroying countless innocent lives and livelihoods.

What a disgusting suggestion to just organise a peace conference with one of the worst monsters Earth has seen and let him get away.

What kind of person are you? Or are you one of his paid bots?

[ralph]

I don't want to denigrate this thread by replying to your latest loony rant ,this is after all about Sandford's the company & seafood Industries .
Have a nice day Black P .

[ronaldson]

Aren't there many countries closer to NZ capable of supplying crews for these vessels? Who would be delighted to serve under NZ labour laws and conditions? So why use Russians, except that we got used to doing so and its convenient to continue?

And isn't the point of any sanctions regime to make life harder for ordinary people, so as to encourage change? So why on the one hand apply sanctions and on the other sympathise and turn a blind eye?

[SailorRob]

Aren't there many countries closer to NZ capable of supplying crews for these vessels? Who would be delighted to serve under NZ labour laws and conditions? So why use Russians, except that we got used to doing so and its convenient to continue?

And isn't the point of any sanctions regime to make life harder for ordinary people, so as to encourage change? So why on the one hand apply sanctions and on the other sympathise and turn a blind eye?

We have hundreds of teenage ram raiders who could do with a decent 6 Month stint in the Southern Ocean on a fishing boat.

[ralph]

I would hope Sanford's like any other company will have mitigation in place for such eventualities .
And hopefully not ram raiders or the like .
https://www.hananuiaquaculture.co.nz/the-project
I see the ngaithai are going for the big one & looks to be a done deal ,with them already having a big stake in Sanford's could this end up being a collaborative venture surely they will be using Sanford's expertise & abilities in this location .