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27-11-2017, 01:53 PM
#3201
Understand your affection for best of breed...hasn't been especially rewarding in the last 3 1/2 years, ~ $8.50 to ~ $10.00 is hardly stellar but long term holders such as yourself I would imagine would care little or not at all.
Still preferring the buy one get one free equivalent SUM where else
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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27-11-2017, 02:02 PM
#3202
Originally Posted by Beagle
Understand your affection for best of breed...hasn't been especially rewarding in the last 3 1/2 years, ~ $8.50 to ~ $10.00 is hardly stellar but long term holders such as yourself I would imagine would care little or not at all.
Still preferring the buy one get one free equivalent SUM where else
I just checked. Initially bought for $1.35. Then had a 5:1 split.
Now I hold SUM as well - I expect similar performance!!
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27-11-2017, 03:00 PM
#3203
Originally Posted by minimoke
I just checked. Initially bought for $1.35. Then had a 5:1 split.
Now I hold SUM as well - I expect similar performance!!
Congrats, that's what I call a STELLAR long term return !! No wonder you think of the company as your friend
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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27-11-2017, 03:07 PM
#3204
Originally Posted by Beagle
Understand your affection for best of breed...hasn't been especially rewarding in the last 3 1/2 years, ~ $8.50 to ~ $10.00 is hardly stellar but long term holders such as yourself I would imagine would care little or not at all.
Still preferring the buy one get one free equivalent SUM where else
It is not night and day between them Beagle. Sharesight tells me my RYM shares have outperformed my SUM:
RYM:
Last 3 1/2 years: 20.47%
Last 2 years: 15.07%
Last year: 20.45%
By comparison my SUM shares have returned:
Last 3 1/2 years: 15.53%
Last 2 years: 15.27%
Last year: 3.57%
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27-11-2017, 03:12 PM
#3205
Junior Member
With the price up over 10, this give me my first two bagger with a current 203% rise at 10.05. Very happy with that.
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27-11-2017, 03:42 PM
#3206
Originally Posted by Onion
It is not night and day between them Beagle. Sharesight tells me my RYM shares have outperformed my SUM:
RYM:
Last 3 1/2 years: 20.47%
Last 2 years: 15.07%
Last year: 20.45%
By comparison my SUM shares have returned:
Last 3 1/2 years: 15.53%
Last 2 years: 15.27%
Last year: 3.57%
It looks like night and day to me mate, see attached graph comparing SP performance over the last 3 years. chart.jpg
Last edited by Beagle; 27-11-2017 at 03:52 PM.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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27-11-2017, 04:24 PM
#3207
Originally Posted by Beagle
It looks like night and day to me mate, see attached graph comparing SP performance over the last 3 years. chart.jpg
Whats it look like including dividends, that chart is SP only performance comparison?
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27-11-2017, 04:32 PM
#3208
Me thinks the 5/1 split was at about $11.30.
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27-11-2017, 04:36 PM
#3209
Originally Posted by Baa_Baa
Whats it look like including dividends, that chart is SP only performance comparison?
Yes that chart is capital share price only BUT from ANZ securities website their respective dividend yields are :-
SUM 1.76%
RYM 1.75%
Neither company attaches imputation credits to their dividends.
Their relative earnings growth tells the story RYM averaging about 15% overt the last 5 years and SUM 48%.
That said I think RYM is a superb company and is run like a well oiled swiss watch and the SP reflects that. You'd be a brave man to bet against RYM long term and I would expect at the very least a market performance from RYM over the next 10 years, most likely a significant outperformance from the demographic tailwinds.
Last edited by Beagle; 27-11-2017 at 04:40 PM.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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27-11-2017, 04:41 PM
#3210
Originally Posted by Beagle
Yes that chart is capital share price only BUT from ANZ securities website their respective dividend yields are :-
SUM 1.76%
RYM 1.75%
Neither company attaches imputation credits to their dividends.
The 'performance' figure given would be the SP + Dividend$ paid, which illustrated RYM outperform … whereas comparing the dividend yields or the SP by themselves is irrelevant in response to the illustration?
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