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    Unless demand picks up they will need to keep downsizing.

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    The changes were reported very negatively on TV 1 news tonight. It will be interesting to see if this will panic small investors causing a dip in SP. May be an opportunity to pick up a few more in the short term. We shall see.

    Gunny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger View Post
    Lets be clear, it will wipe out the profit this year almost entirely but will probably be treated as an extraordinary item below the profit line so won't impact normalised profit, (a term I personally despise) but the new guard are dispensing with manufacturing facilities that are obviously well past best practice and right sizing production capability for the future in the most efficient way and the payback period of just over 1 year is there for all too see.

    Who wouldn't take a $4.5m one-off hit to generate ongoing annual efficiencies that look something like $3.5 - $4.0m. This is what real progress looks like when the new broom cleans out lots of old dead wood...(disposal of dead wood and eradication of dead wood practices and manufacturing methodologies is never free).
    Thanks for such an in-depth answer, great post.
    There certainly has been a quick turn around between new management and downsizing. I hope the new faces within CAV management continue to produce such good efficiently

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    The changes were reported very negatively on TV 1 news tonight. It will be interesting to see if this will panic small investors causing a dip in SP. May be an opportunity to pick up a few more in the short term. We shall see.

    Gunny
    This will be very interesting to see if a negative news story on prime time will impact the sp significantly.
    I'd be picking up more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    The changes were reported very negatively on TV 1 news tonight. It will be interesting to see if this will panic small investors causing a dip in SP. May be an opportunity to pick up a few more in the short term. We shall see.

    Gunny
    TV News' first reaction to such stories always seems to be the "human interest" angle rather than the business implications. Understandable, I suppose, given that they're not aiming at a specific "business" audience at that time. I doubt that their story will have much influence on the market today.

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    Roger - almost without fail Cavalier incur restructuring / rationalisation / closures costs ....and excluded from 'normalised' earnings (as non-recurring or discontinued operations).

    So regular (recurring) things hare 'normal'


    Wonder what next years 'non-recurring' costs will be?

    Inevitability there will be one - it's normal in these types of business these days

    Whatever it gives management and shareholders the warm fuzzies so its all OK
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    This latest drop in price came a day before the restructure announcement ..Hmmm.To be fair those people with their jobs on the line would probably feel or heard that something was going on and this info would be hard to keep under wraps until the announcement...

    So pre-announcement selling by a small number of investors may have faked themselves out as the TA is bullish ...That selling did dent the more sensitive indicators but no real damage resulted....For TA damage to occur the new breakout had to fail and so far this hasn't happened and it looks like the 66c support could be the new floor.
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    My morbid fascination with companies like Cavalier continues (companies that make stuff for houses and buildings because I know an awful lot about them) - save me please

    Chart is CAV share price with the big dots each time they made a big announcement about restructuring, closing plants, buying and selling bus and all that sort of stuff

    Each announcement said it will us cost us $X but in following years we will make $X+ more ...and we remain committed to manufacturing woollen carpets in NZ

    To me each restructure is just another step on the way to the inevitable - because they don't seem to want to (or are incapable of) reinvent themselves in times that are a changin

    Good stories eh .... chart doesn't say so

    The CEO on the radio this morning out that years ago 70% of carpet sold in NZ was woollen but that has dropped to 10% currently ...hmmm

    One would never invest (medium/long term) in CAV on fundamentals - better to punt on the cyclic changes in the hopes and warm fuzzies and just follow the crowds and get out before they realise that that hoping is not really a good strategy

    But then again this time is different isn't it
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    One thought

    If Methven can turn themselves around so can Cavalier

    Maybe hope is a strategy after all

    (Hoop - sometimes your charts play havoc with what I see on the thread. This one of them)
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    One thought

    If Methven can turn themselves around so can Cavalier

    Maybe hope is a strategy after all

    (Hoop - sometimes your charts play havoc with what I see on the thread. This one of them)
    Do Methven do any manufacturing in NZ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by percy View Post
    Do Methven do any manufacturing in NZ?
    plant in avondale I think

    but alot in china

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