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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadalac123 View Post
    Do you really think they’ll pay a dividend as well as paying out claim holders ..
    Actually I think that’s a good sign that they will - probably not the 70% they have indicated but I think 35% as a start.

    Market thinks otherwise so let’s see what happens on 28 May.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Actually I think that’s a good sign that they will - probably not the 70% they have indicated but I think 35% as a start.

    Market thinks otherwise so let’s see what happens on 28 May.
    On balance, Balance, I agree. The Board will be anxious to start returning dividends and I think something like 35-50% would be a decent outcome for all stakeholders.

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    Sp is firming nicely ahead of the results tomorrow.

    Market anticipating the payment of a dividend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Sp is firming nicely ahead of the results tomorrow.

    Market anticipating the payment of a dividend?
    Possibly. But RBNZ governor is drawing attention to the need for insurers and second tier financiers to shore up their capital. If they take that seriously they'll follow the lead of the banks and defer dividends at this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macduffy View Post
    Possibly. But RBNZ governor is drawing attention to the need for insurers and second tier financiers to shore up their capital. If they take that seriously they'll follow the lead of the banks and defer dividends at this time.
    True, I doubt dividend would be on the cards tomorrow.

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    Due to personal circumstance and re-balancing, I've sold my holding - I think TWR is well placed though and think they will go to dividend in 6 months and be steady from there on. They are well positioned to take market share from the other incumbents so I'll be keeping a close eye.

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    insurance companies very at risk in a low rate or negative rate environment of going bust as highlighted by RBNZ
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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    insurance companies very at risk in a low rate or negative rate environment of going bust as highlighted by RBNZ

    Um why would they go bust. Lose some
    Revenue from first rates sure but completely bust ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadalac123 View Post
    Um why would they go bust. Lose some
    Revenue from first rates sure but completely bust ?
    falling investment revenue from low returns. keeps getting worse as rates go even lower. unlike banks it isnt as easy for them to maintain a margin. guess they could stop insuring more high risk stuff or jack your premiums thru the roof etc but even that has a limit. big event claims wipes them out as they dont have the revenue to payout even with re-insurance. aus insurance company reporting provides good insights into the delemma of falling investment returns
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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    falling investment revenue from low returns. keeps getting worse as rates go even lower. unlike banks it isnt as easy for them to maintain a margin. guess they could stop insuring more high risk stuff or jack your premiums thru the roof etc but even that has a limit. big event claims wipes them out as they dont have the revenue to payout even with re-insurance. aus insurance company reporting provides good insights into the delemma of falling investment returns
    Sure but their investment returns are currently an insignificant portion of their revenue so how would that lead them to going bust

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