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22-02-2021, 04:22 PM
#1291
Antipodean that may be about right but it ignores the clear risk to the book.
ANZ now has every incentive to get their customers to switch to their current insurance partners, Vero. So expect the $40m to decrease over time.
Worth it, if it lets them turn off their old IT systems. Otherwise, maybe a forced purchase by Tower?
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22-02-2021, 04:49 PM
#1292
Member
Originally Posted by Filthy
maybe TradeMe insurance; isn't that underwritten as well? haha
Trademe insurance is already underwritten by Tower
Originally Posted by Jaa
Antipodean that may be about right but it ignores the clear risk to the book.
ANZ now has every incentive to get their customers to switch to their current insurance partners, Vero. So expect the $40m to decrease over time.
Yes ANZ have full incentive to move that book now, assuming there isn't anything in the purchase agreement that either forbids it, restricts it, or changes the price depending on the book volume at March 12. In any case if these policies have been around since 2009, I can't imagine a flood of them will move in the next two and a half weeks.
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22-02-2021, 04:52 PM
#1293
Originally Posted by Jaa
Antipodean that may be about right but it ignores the clear risk to the book.
ANZ now has every incentive to get their customers to switch to their current insurance partners, Vero. So expect the $40m to decrease over time.
Worth it, if it lets them turn off their old IT systems. Otherwise, maybe a forced purchase by Tower?
Buy ANZ instead you reckon ?
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22-02-2021, 05:00 PM
#1294
Originally Posted by Jaa
Antipodean that may be about right but it ignores the clear risk to the book.
ANZ now has every incentive to get their customers to switch to their current insurance partners, Vero. So expect the $40m to decrease over time.
Worth it, if it lets them turn off their old IT systems. Otherwise, maybe a forced purchase by Tower?
It would be standard commercial practice to write a non-compete clause into a deal like this. Those customers will be forever barred to ANZ
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22-02-2021, 05:11 PM
#1295
Originally Posted by Poet
It would be standard commercial practice to write a non-compete clause into a deal like this. Those customers will be forever barred to ANZ
Your dreaming. The customer is always free to decide and your friendly local bank teller will always be incentivised to offer you a new better deal. Churn is as old as insurance.
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22-02-2021, 05:14 PM
#1296
Originally Posted by Jaa
Your dreaming. The customer is always free to decide and your friendly local bank teller will always be incentivised to offer you a new better deal. Churn is as old as insurance.
A bank teller? Jeez, haven't seen one of those for many years - do they still exist?
The only way ANZ would be marketing to these customers would be on-line, and I'm thinking that will be prohibited in the deal
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22-02-2021, 08:56 PM
#1297
This does point to no dividends being paid within at least the next half year. However that money isn't 'lost', it will just appear in the capitalisation of the stock over time due to increased future profits. The board and management have recently purchased materially large positions in the stock. They believe using profits for acquisitions is the best use of funding rather than paying out dividends (which will be taxed) at this stage.
I agree with them. They have finished heavy investment into their digital platform which will create large efficiencies. They are now in a position to scale the business with little extra admin cost. I still see the end game of Bain Capital being a sale of the business. The larger they can grow their loan books the more attractive they become to large overseas players who want a meaningful position in the NZ and the Pacific.
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22-02-2021, 11:54 PM
#1298
Originally Posted by JohnnyTheHorse
This does point to no dividends being paid within at least the next half year.
TWR did a capital raise in September 2019 in large part because the RBNZ wouldn't count the then disputed EQC receivable for capital adequacy purposes. With that position now resolved (albeit for an amount less than sought), TWR will have excess capital that it may have difficulty returning to shareholders tax effectively due to an absence of any imputation credits. I therefore favour investing the excess capital to grow the business.
The ability of insurers to pay dividends continues to be under RBNZ surveillance due to COVID concerns on liquidity. Assuming TWR has a more than adequate capital position, small unimputed dividends hopefully won't be far off.
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23-02-2021, 08:43 AM
#1299
Member
Originally Posted by nztx
Boys & Girls - was that your dividend that just disappeared out the door ?
TWR holders what remains of them appear to be a patient crew, perhaps too much so
when it comes to swallowing a trail of excuses on why no Divvie .. not even a smell
of one for long periods ..
Apparently not..... https://www.nzx.com/announcements/367996
"Tower’s consistent growth supports return to dividends"
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23-02-2021, 08:47 AM
#1300
Originally Posted by ados_nz
And an intention that the half year dividend is 2.5c
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